I can confirm that there is some strange behavior with accidentals in
2k7; I just haven't been able to pin it down. When I encounter some
of these things, I'm often not sure if Finale is at fault, or I am,
so I can be slow to catch them. As you can see, if you've been
following the 2007 saga, sometimes what I consider to be Finale's
misbehavior is a result of a misunderstanding on my part.
However, I have had these problems with accidentals in speedy: Typing
"p" dose not always force the parenthesized accidental to appear.
When that happens, *p will do it. I have had trouble with the
Cautionary Accidentals plugin going haywire and putting all kinds of
things in, in spite of a careful selection of options. I have
abandoned it for the moment and am relying on myself to put them in.
Problem with that is that I sometimes don't notice where they're needed.
Anyway, I can confirm that I have seen erratic behavior with
accidentals in 2k7 - nothing I couldn't override, but not as
consistent as it used to be, or needs to be.
Chuck
On Sep 23, 2006, at 8:02 AM, dhbailey wrote:
I can't force the natural on the D -- it appears by default and
when I hit the * key the natural disappears. With the natural
showing, if the first note is changed to C# by whatever method, the
natural disappears, as it should. Interestingly enough, though,
with that enharmonic flip in place, you can't force the natural at
all.
Another reason not to use the enharmonic flip, but simply drag the
note and have Finale actually change the underlying data.
Remember, the enharmonic flip isn't changing the data, it's simply
changing the way the data is displayed onscreen. Internally, a Db
is a Db is a Db, even when the program is told to display it as a C#.
If you drag it to a C and add the sharp, then the data really IS C#.
David
Rich Caldwell wrote:
I just noticed something else. This "feature" only occurs when
I've enharmonically switched the previous note. If I'm entering
without a MIDI keyboard, I enter 'C' then sharp it - so it's not
enharmonically flipping. If 'favor sharps' is on, then it won't
either.
Do this: Enter 'Db-D', force natural on the 'D', then change the
Db to C#. The natural for me disappears.
If this is indeed a bug, I'm surprised no one had mentioned it
here or on MM's boards yet. After entering notes for only 5
minutes in 2k7, it stopped me dead in my tracks.
By the way, I can run the plug-in to put in cautionaries after the
fact, but I like to be more hands-on with them.
On Sep 23, 2006, at 7:57 AM, dhbailey wrote:
Mike Cholewa wrote:
I have experienced this behavior in WinFin2k7 too. It only
concerns Speedy
Entry. In Simple Entry there's no problem. I guess it's a bug.
Mike Cholewa
WinFin2k7
Maybe I'm not understanding the problem, but I just tried it in
winfin2007, default document, single staff, entered C, C#, D --
then with the cursor on D I hit the * key and the natural shows up.
Could you be more specific in listing the steps you're following
where the natural isn't showing up?
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