At 9:00 AM +0100 1/23/07, Daniel Wolf wrote:
John Howell wrote:

A parallel can be drawn with the figured bass of the 17th and 18th centuries. (This, by the way, is a no-longer-living language, but one that served for generations to solve exactly the same problems that were faced in 20th century pop and jazz.)

I have to object to this. Above and beyond the large number of contemporary musicians associated with historical performance practice who have mastered extemporaneous realization of figured bass accompaniment, figured bass has never left "classical" musical training, and in some areas, for instance church organists here in Germany, performance from figured bass has a continuous, unbroken, tradition.

I knew that as I wrote, of course, but like all matters of historical performance practice modern players are learning the language of figured bass as an historical artifact, and the language is NOT changing in the present.

As I've written here before, figured bass has one great advantage over vernacular chord symbols: by notating the intervals over the bass, the full content of the chord is indicated umambiguously.

I would not agree 100% with this. Both figured bass and chord symbols indicate all the notes, but never the voicing, at least not for the best players of either.

What figured bass does not do is indicate functions, and I suspect that a large portion of the problem with vernacular practice is a confusion between the need to indicate the pitch content and a desire to locate the chord functionally, thus the continued discussions over whether a chord should be labeled x or y.

I believe you're entirely correct. We must remember that both figured bass and chord symbols are intended for performance and not for analysis. One major difference is that in figured bass notes altered from the key signature must be so labeled, while in chord symbols the symbols are absolute and independent from the key signature. But neither was ever intended for theory analysis, which is an entirely different process.

This is problematic on several accounts, the first being that musics of all sorts delight in functional ambiguity, and the second that the analysis, the labeling, is introducing a second level of abstraction into the notation. If the idea is to make reading more fluent and playing more fluid, then one would presumably prefer to be free of an additional abstraction.

Exactly. And my suggestion was that making chord symbols that emphasize the extensions rather than the basic chords creates exactly that kind of abstraction.

John


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