Yeah, yeah, and the English horn isn't really English, and, for that matter, the bass clarinet is really a tenor instrument. But we go to war with the instrument names that we have. Gunther was right to insist on "contra-alto" for the Eb instrument and "contrabass" for the Bb instrument, because too many people already refer to the Eb instrument as a "contrabass clarinet," which causes no end of confusion. (For instance, Full GPO has a contra-alto clarinet sample and no contrabass clarinet sample, but they mistakenly refer to the instrument as a contrabass clarinet.)

The two sub-bass clarinets in Eb and Bb are two very different instruments and they need different names to distinguish them. The most widely-used names for them are "contra-alto clarinet" and "contrabass clarinet," so if you want to be understood, those are the terms you have to use.

Cheers,

- Darcy
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On 07 Jun 2007, at 2:59 PM, Raymond Horton wrote:

John Howell wrote:



>Better? [alto clarinet vs basset horn] Or just different? And of course the matter of low range, although the extension to low C >would take care of that. I suspect that very few band directors assign their best players to alto clarinets, and like every member >of the family it is an individual instrument and has to be learned and mastered on its own terms.


Just listen to them, side-by-side.

And contra means against, not double. And alto means "high" or "above," of course! The original "Contratenor altus" means "against the tenor - above." This begat "contralto", which begat "alto" Now "contra-alto" means "double alto?" Nonsensical!


At least "Contratenor bassus" which became "contrabass" means "against the tenor - below," but everyone thinks it means "doublebass. " Ask the third bassoonist what instument he plays! ("I play contra." "Against whom?")


I know I am starting to sound ridiculous, but goodness, the "contra- alto" clarinet is just carrying this silliness too far.


RBH


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