I am one of those few Finale users who always purchase the new upgrades and I'm 
never dissapointed. I'm not usually vocal about that.

Mark McCarron


--- On Wed, 5/20/09, dhbailey <dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com> wrote:

> From: dhbailey <dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com>
> Subject: Re: [Finale] Sibelius 6
> To: finale@shsu.edu
> Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 6:39 AM
> Darcy James Argue wrote:
> > The demo video is really impressive. There are always
> hiccups and stuff that doesn't work quite as well as it
> could, but this feature set sure looks like a worthy
> upgrade, with lots of notation-centric improvements. I hope
> it spurs Finale to match Sib's new features, especially
> the layout tools.
> > 
> > As a Finale loyalist, It burns to see the principles
> behind Finale's vertical collision plug-in -- a great
> idea crippled by shoddy implementation -- featured so
> prominently in the new version of Sibelius.
> > 
> > The auto-aligning dynamics and hairpins looks great,
> and is something Finale should have and could have
> implemented a long time ago.
> > 
> > I think this also clearly shows the insanity of
> Finale's yearly update schedule. Sibelius looks now to
> be on a biennial update schedule and for the last three
> versions now, the improvements have been substantial,
> allowing them to charge more ($169.00 for an upgrade from
> Sib5) and, I suspect, sell a lot more upgrades.
> > 
> 
> As a member of the Sibelius group at yahoogroups, I have to
> say that there I don't recall there being anybody who
> complains about the upgrade schedule.  And while there are
> those who don't upgrade due to financial restrictions,
> I've never read that people aren't upgrading because
> they want to wait to see how the new features work and
> whether they really work at all, and never has anybody
> posted that they're skipping an upgrade because the
> improvements and additions in any single Sib upgrade
> aren't worth it.  At least that I recall.
> 
> One thing that Finale has done is to create a gun-shy user
> base, at least as indicated on this group.  Many people
> don't jump on Finale upgrades the way they used to
> because of the horrible bugs which have been prevalent in
> the initial releases of the past several annual Finale
> upgrades.  How many messages on this group have been of the
> "I'll wait until they bring out the Fin200Xa
> patch" which can't be helpful to the financial
> engine of the company.  I wonder how many people hold off
> waiting for the first update patch to the upgrade (what a
> stupid thing that a company's user base has to wait for
> such a thing to feel comfortable with a new version) only to
> find that when the update patch is released the
> early-adopters aren't raving about how much got fixed. 
> There must be many people who waited for the update patch
> and then waited an additional period for the "b"
> patch (not there always is one) or simply decide they were
> smart not to fall for that upgrade and simply wait for the
> next full version upgrade hoping the major bugs introduced
> in the current version manage to get fixed in the next full
> version upgrade?
> 
> Sibelius' current biennial update schedule does several
> things, all of which seem to be positive:
> 1) people have longer to get comfortable with the additions
> and changes and can actually get a lot of work done before
> having to relearn stuff in the new version;
> 2) the cost of a biennial Sibelius upgrade is a little
> cheaper than what the early-adopters of the annual Finale
> upgrades have to pay for their concurrent 2-version upgrades
> matching the Sibelius single upgrade;
> 3) the Sibelius development team has much longer to squash
> any bugs and to ensure that everything is working as it
> should so that complaints are minimal with new releases,
> raising the confidence level for the end-users;
> 4) people can buy the Sibelius upgrade and hold off on
> installing it if they would rather finish current projects
> in the older version, knowing that even if they wait nine
> months to install it, they'll get well over a year's
> use out of the new version before upgrading again.  With
> Finale, if a person does that, they only get 3 months of use
> out of a new version (hardly enough time to really learn all
> the new features and to feel comfortable with the
> annually-rearranged menu structure) so I recall reading some
> posts where people have held off installing the new version
> of Finale they paid for, only to complain that it's
> still shrink-wrapped when the next version comes out.
> 
> The prevailing attitude towards the corporation on the
> Sibelius group is positive.  Can the same be said about the
> prevailing attitude towards the corporation on this Finale
> list?
> 
> We'll know in a couple of months whether Finale has
> finally solved the problems that arose in Fin2009 and
> managed any similar improvements to what Sibelius has to
> offer.
> 
> I sure hope so because I want Finale to continue to survive
> and to keep its user base, if only to keep providing
> inspiration for Sibelius to use to actually implement the
> concepts better, and to provide competition so that Sibelius
> as a company doesn't become complacent but continues to
> make huge improvements with each new version.
> 
> I would love to once again feel confident enough in a new
> version of Finale that I would place my order the day I
> learn about the upgrade.  I used to do that, all the way
> from Fin3.5 (my first Finale version) up until the Fin2009
> version, which I skipped totally and have been glad I did.
> 
> But now I make the same leap for the new version of
> Sibelius that I used to make for Finale.
> 
> The ball's in your court, MakeMusic!
> 
> 
> 
> -- David H. Bailey
> dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com
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