Basses in tenor clef should still be notated an
octave above absolute pitch, so it shouldn't be
higher than cellos. (And I assume that you
meant to write "how many ledger lines are too
much in BASS ...")
ah, no i meant tenor *clef*.
yes the question is ledger lines, i know about
transpositions and avoiding clefs, and i know in
extreme detail when clef changes are warranted in
horns and vc from looking through a bunch of
scores to find out.
But what you're asking is how many ledger lines
players are used to seeing, and I suspect that
for string players it's a lot more than you
might think.
nope, i know they are accustomed to them, i just
don't know the exact number / pitch. i know some
violists get shaky with 4, but that will vary
according to player and whether or not they were
hammered by french solfège training or not (9
clefs, i think?).
And think about lead trombonists: They are used
to seeing high Bb and C in BASS clef, and that's
4 ledger lines. Flutists even more.
thanks, but teh question concerned basses!!!!!
flutists usually read up to C7 without 8va lines,
but there you also have a (traditional) physical
registral limit. violins can play much higher
than that so at some point 8vas are necessary.
nono however made an exception to this "rule", la
lontananza is notated with something like 10
ledger lines in places.
But as long as you stick with standard clefs
(and treble clef, at pitch, is apparently now
"standard" for cello thumb positions) it really
isn't necessary to worry about how many ledger
lines you have, even though some people may
quote "rules" (more like rules of thumb,
actually, and yes, pun intended!).
that isn't true, i know there are differences in
orhcestral musicians and chamber musicians and
there are standards. the question was maybe
better phrased as "at what PITCH should the clef
change in to treble from tenor (or bass) and in
what circumstances. singl;e note in extreme high
register is possible in many instruments but for
example, as i said, as soon as there is a C5 in a
cello passage, the treble clef ALWAYS appears.
one or two isolated B4's are ok in bass, but is
the passage generally plays in that register,
tenor is used.
i am hoping to get this kind of info for the basses.
And of course there are some things that you
just don't change clefs for, like the low range
of a low-C bass clarinet, or tuba notes. The
players can read them just fine.
yeah but i am asking about basses.
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