I have given up on notating anything in compound meter. It is much too difficult for players to sight-read for anything of even moderate rhythmic complexity in such meters. Notating 6/8 figures in 2/4 (w/triplets), or 12/8 figures 4/4 (w/triplets), has the *huge* benefit of visually showing where all downbeats lie. Otherwise, everyone ends up having to pencil in the beat map underneath the music.
In duple meter, for sight-reading purposes, rhythms are binary -- they fall either *on the beat* or *off the beat.* (Players will subdivide "the beat" as necessary, as long the subdivisions are binary.) In triple meter, there are *three* possible rhythmic subdivisions per beat, which makes sight-reading much more difficult. But reading complex/syncopated compound rhythms becomes easier if all three beat positions are bounded under a triplet bracket, so that the downbeats, at least, are instantly clear. Cheers, - DJA ----- WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 29 Apr 2010, at 1:47 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: > Write the piece in 12/8? > > Chuck > > > On Apr 29, 2010, at 10:02 AM, George Ports wrote: > >> Hi Michael, >> What you suggested with Speedy works real good except it works only once. I >> have to hit control+3 on each set of 1/8 note triplets. I tried to hit caps >> lock first to hold all the notes to triplets to no avail. >> I use 'Simple Entry' almost always and is where I ran into the problem. >> What I'd really wish I could do is be able to select 'Set Default' in the >> 'tuplet definition menu' and make it stay 1/8 triplets as a default but, it >> keeps going back to: 3 eighths in the space of 2 eighth notes (instead of 3 >> eighths in the space of 1 quarter note). There's got to be some way to set >> the default and make it stick, especially since it was that way originally. >> I can work around all this but, it is real time consuming. >> Thanks for all your help. If you run across a way to make the default to >> stay in Simple entry, could you let me know? >> Thanks again, >> George >> ----- Original Message ----- From: <mmathew1...@comcast.net> >> To: <finale@shsu.edu> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 1:58 PM >> Subject: Re: [Finale] Tuplets Default >> >> >> I would guess that it should work for all recent versions on either platform? >> I was afraid that might be the case that it would not hold from one instance >> to another. >> >> >> There is probably another preference setting somewhere in the bowels of the >> application? >> This is what I found in the manual under tuplets: >> >> >> >> >> To en ter tuplets with the Speedy Entry Tool >> >> 1. Click the Speedy Entry Tool image\Simple_Entry_Tool.gif, and click the >> measure in question. The editing frame appears. >> 2. If MIDI is not being used, place the cursor on the correct pitch. >> 3. Press option -number in the number keypad. You can press any number >> between 2 and 8 to specify the tuplet value that you’re about to enter. When >> you do so, the number you pressed appears in the upper right corner of the >> editing frame, telling you that Finale is ready to group the next notes you >> enter as a tuplet defined by that number. If you need to enter a more >> complex tuplet (or want to specify a particular bracket or slur >> configuration), press option –1, and the Tuplet Definition dialog box will >> appear (see Tuplet Definition dialog box ). >> 4. Enter the notes of the tuplet. The value of the first note you enter >> tells Finale whether you’re entering an eighth-note tuplet, quarter-note >> tuplet, and so on. Finale automatically groups them and brackets them >> according to the default visual tuplet settings (see “ To predefine the >> appearance of tuplets , ” below). To enter many tuplets in a row, see To >> enter many notes of the same value (hands-free MIDI method) . >> >> >> Have you looked here, yet? >> >> Michael >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Ports" <minor...@adelphia.net> >> To: finale@shsu.edu >> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:24:03 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific >> Subject: Re: [Finale] Tuplets Default >> >> I tried that but it won't stay in the setting I chose. I can do it with one >> set of triplets but, it won't stay that way even though I selected the >> default button. By the way, I forgot to mention that I am using WinFin 2006b >> but, it still should work the same shouldn't it? How can I get it to stay as >> a default. I tried to find a way to set it in the 'document options but, >> couldn't a way to do that either. >> George >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "J D Thomas" <j...@thomastudios.com> >> To: <finale@shsu.edu> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:06 AM >> Subject: Re: [Finale] Tuplets Default >> >> >>> I'm on FinMac2K7, and IIRC, you double click the tuplet tool and set your >>> defaults in the resulting dialog box. >>> >>> J D Thomas >>> ThomaStudios >>> >>> On Apr 28, 2010, at 10:58 AM, George Ports wrote: >>> >>>> I can not (for the life of me) make the original 1/8 note triplets be >>>> the default. It is set up for (6) sixteenths and I can't get it to stay >>>> with (3) eighths. Can someone please help me to set my default to (3) >>>> 1/8 note triplets? 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