Thanks a lot for your suggestions Raymond, I will do as you wrote and
see what happens.
Anyway, this "kind of fermata" problem got out in other scores I wrote
in 2011, while it did not happen
in 2006 version I used a lot before upgrading.
Il 17/06/2011 4.17, Raymond Horton ha scritto:
>> At 11:16 AM +0200 6/15/11, Marcello Noia wrote:
>>> -------- Messaggio originale --------
>>> Oggetto: FinWin 2k11 - strange Hp rendition of ' (breath) sign
>>> Data: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:45:56 +0200
>>> Mittente: Marcello Noia<marcello.n...@unimi.it>
>>> Rispondi-a: marcello.n...@unimi.it
>>> A: finale@shsu.edu<finale@shsu.edu>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Why Finale stops a bit the time of a piece when the breath sign is
>>> placed after a note?
>>> And more, it happens only when breath is placed on every voice of the
>>> score in the same position (SATB).
>>> It should only cut a fixed percentual duration of the note without
>>> influencing the time.
>>> Does exist any "academic" meaning to make Finale programmers introducing
>>> this
>>> feature in the breath sign?
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 12:47 PM, John Howell<john.how...@vt.edu> wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately, yes. The sign (comma-shaped) has two meanings. The
>> first is a simple breath mark, which should not change the meter and
>> should steal time from the preceding note, just as you say. But the
>> second is a kind of caesura, or silent tenuto, often inserted just
>> before the final note or final measure of a piece in performance
>> (whether called for or not), and conventionally indicated by a comma,
>> although the double lines ("railroad tracks") would be more accurate.
>>
>> Apparently the programmers programmed the second meaning only.
> No, no, no!
>
> "The programmers" in Finale made the breath mark play the note after
> which it is placed a shorter duration than printed. In Fin2011, it
> plays the note 75% of the original length (for example, playing a
> quarter note as a dotted eighth plus a sixteenth rest) but does not
> alter the meter. In older Finale versions I believe it played a
> shorter percentage (50%?), and I always changed mine to 75 or 80
> percent.
>
> It, just as any articulation in Finale, can be changed - by the user -
> to any other duration, or made to alter the note's attack or velocity,
> or made to make no affect whatsoever to the playback. The user can
> double click on one of the breath marks and the dialogue box will pop
> up. The user can also copy the breath mark and program different ones
> with different playback lengths. In addition, an identical comma
> marking could be made - by the user - as an expression, to which
> nearly any type of playback function could be assigned. One could
> have a breath mark change the patch, switch the rhythm to swing,
> change the transposition, or rotate the tires on your car. (I may
> have imagined one of those.)
>
> Back to Marcello's question - if this is a file of your own creation,
> Marcello, and breath marks in every voice cause an interruption in the
> meter, some problem has been introduced in some other way. I have
> tried, just now, to reproduce that problem and I cannot. I would have
> noticed the problem before, in any case, as I do a lot of SATB pieces
> in Finale for my church choir and often put in breath marks ahead of
> time to save rehearsal time.
>
> Here is what I would suggest - first, under the articulation menu,
> double click on one of the breath marks to see what it's definition
> is. If it is not an articulation, click it with the selection tool to
> find out what it is. If redefining it doesn't seem to get anywhere,
> then I would suggest you highlight the entire offending passage, then
> under the "Edit" menu select "Clear selected items" - then on the
> items menu: First select "none" so you don't clear anything you want
> to keep; then select "midi data" and "articulations," then "OK." That
> will likely clear any playback problems, but you will have to re-enter
> the breath marks.
>
> If you want, Marcello, send me the problem file - tell me in what
> measures the problem occurs, and I will take a look at it.
>
> Raymond Horton
> Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
>
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