To Mark D Lew and Finale list:

This only goes back 3 months, but I wanted to thank Mark for excellent
advice, and pass it along for anyone else who needs something similar.

> On Nov 8, 2011, at 8:19 PM, Raymond Horton wrote:
>> What is the best way to indicate a time signature of 6/8 followed by
>> 3/4 in parenthesis?

Mark wrote:
> My default plan would be:
>
> 1. Check "use a different time signature for display".
>
> 2. Pick "composite" for the display time sig, and set it up as 6/8 + 3/4.
>
> 3. Under Document Options > Time Signature change the plus character to a 
> fixed space. (I use opt-space on Mac, gives better spacing than an ordinary 
> space; it shows as 202 on Finale's character chart.)
>
> 4. Then set up the parentheses as a text expression.
>
> This work in most cases, though it can cause spacing difficulties if one 
> falls at the end of the system.  It's also a problem if you need a real 
> composite time signature with a plus elsewhere in the piece.
>
> mdl

Ray cautiously replied:

> > Your method is better than what I was doing, but can I trust those two
> > items will stay together in proper position?
>
Mark assured:

>
> The 6/8 and 3/4 will definitely stay the same distance away from each other.  
> What may or may not cause problems is the space after the 3/4 so that your 
> parentheses will look good.  For any time signature that isn't at the end of 
> a system you can adjust for that in the measure tool.  If the composite time 
> sig ends up at the far end of the system, I'm not sure there's an easy fix.
>
> I'm not sure I'm foreseeing every possibility, so I can't guarantee it.  If 
> it were me, I'd give it a try and see how it works.  It's not that hard.
>
> mdl
> _______________________________________________


Hey Mark!

Long story why I only now tried this.  (I was helping my daughter -
Minister of Music at a different church, with a piece she wrote, so I
had forwarded your suggestion to her.  Anyway, she's getting her new
piece read at a local reading session Tuesday night, sent it to me to
proof, and i see she still has the ugly makeshift combo time sig I had
put on it earlier.

The reason I was hesitant in accepting your advice was the term "text
expression" threw my brain (still hooked to older Finale tools) off -
I was thinking, until I started to actually apply it, that you meant
actual text, and I knew of no way to attach text permanently to a time
signature.  But, of course, you meant to use the expression tool to
make a text expression - several versions back it would have been
called a note or measure expression, or something.

Anyway, you advice works perfectly!  And, it's quite easy to position
an expression around a time signature.  As you say - there could be a
problem at the end of a system - I didn't need it in this file.
Perhaps the "extra space at end of measure" command in the Measure
Attributes could fix that?

Also, for your other caveat: "It's also a problem if you need a real
composite time signature with a plus elsewhere in the piece" - could
be solved by a text expression putting back in the plus sign when
needed!  (How's that for ass-backward thinking?)

Thanks!

Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
Composer, Arranger
VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com

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