On Fri Apr 20, at FridayApr 20 10:40 PM, John Howell wrote:

> At 9:27 PM -0400 4/20/12, Christopher Smith wrote:
>> No, I wouldn't. With the cue in the same layer as the real music, it 
>> shows up correctly, even with voiced parts.
>> 
>> If you don't want the cue to show in the score, you can hide it with 
>> a staff style there, and hide the rests if necessary. I have been 
>> conducting a lot of concert band music recently and enjoy the 
>> convention of little-used instruments being cued in other parts and 
>> the cue just noted in the score as [Bn.] or [Ob.] in the measure 
>> where it starts. Then I don't have to ask the band, "Anyone have a 
>> bassoon cue?" or pore through every part beforehand looking for cues.
>> 
>> Christopher
> 
> 
> Same thing for me in concert band music.  But 
> does it really bother anyone to see the cues in 
> your score?  I've long agreed with David Bailey 
> that the conductor should always see exactly what 
> each player sees, and I can't think of a 
> situation that I'd want it any different.  In 
> fact for a recent concert on which I guest 
> conducted I mistakenly printed a concert pitch 
> score instead of a transposed score, and reading 
> it drove me nuts because I WANT to see what the 
> players see.  With a concert score I have to 
> transpose an individual part so know what the 
> player's really playing.  I do realize that 
> others disagree--especially those who are 
> pianists.
> 
> John

The reason I like seeing just the text note, rather than the whole cue in the 
score, is that it is easy to mistake small notes for regular notes at a 
distance and when there are lots of staves and even the regular-sized notes are 
rather small and I'm waving my arms around a lot. I can easily be confused as 
to whether an instrument is actually playing or not, and the score can look 
full when really I only have five or six instruments making sound. More and 
more, I am appreciating score layout conventions, as I am really starting to be 
able to hear what is going on more quickly in a conventionally laid out score. 
Unusual conventions take me just a little more time to "get". I am in complete 
agreement with you about transposed scores.

We haven't mentioned this yet, but cues that are designed ONLY to help the 
player know what is happening before an entrance (never meant to be played) 
should never be visible to the conductor. In a professional or orchestral 
situation, these are by far the more common type of cue.

Christopher


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