It looks like it has to be done in TWO STEPS:

(1) Use regular transposition to transpose the notes at whatever
 interval is needed, and then
(2) Transpose the KS back to C, saying "hold notes to pitches."

I don't see a way to do it in one step. Maybe the newer Finale allows that?

 

 

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   1. Re: slightly OT: ScoreCleaner (SN jef chippewa)
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      ?) (Robert Patterson)
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      ?) (Christopher Smith)
   5. beaming (Lawrence David Eden)
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don't see the point of this software if used as a notation programme 
 
verson 2.5 (!) adds the "long awaited feature" of display for transposing 
instruments, as well as other unique features such as dynamics (!?!?!), slurs, 
repeat / repeat endings and copy-paste. 
 
can't open smf files, but i don't work with midi so maybe this is nothing 
 
the only possible interest i can see is if the transcription engine was 
effective beyond triplets.  there is a palette hat seems to allow up to 7-let 
with one click and a wildcard tuplet, but i never figured out how to get it tot 
work. 
 
as far as a notation programme goes, quite banal.  editing entries is 
incredibly clunky and seems very limited. 
 
then it crashed and i said screw it 
 

 
 


 
        
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By "stave setup" do you mean the key signature tools option?

If I want to transpose from C up a major 6th for example, it puts 3 sharps in 
the key
signature. Something I want to avoid. The other choices are "hold notes to 
chromatic pitches"
or  "hold notes enharmonically". I don't want those either - I don't WANT to 
hold the notes.

I WANT TO TRANSPOSE IT and still have the no flats or sharps KS.

The other possibility on the staff tools is B flat or E flat transposition --
which doesn't wotk either.




 
 


 
        
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If the music has no key signature, use the Chromatic Transposition option.
(Google the instructions if you don't know how.)

If the music has changing key signatures, but you don't want that
particular instrument to have a key signature (e.g., horn parts in Brahms),
do the following.

1. Set the staff to have an independent key signature.
2. Set the key sig for that staff equal to the key of transposition. (F for
horn in F)
3. Set normal transposition on the staff. (F transposition)

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 8:14 PM, William Sinclair <billsi...@aol.com> wrote:

>
> By "stave setup" do you mean the key signature tools option?
>
> If I want to transpose from C up a major 6th for example, it puts 3 sharps
> in the key
> signature. Something I want to avoid. The other choices are "hold notes to
> chromatic pitches"
> or  "hold notes enharmonically". I don't want those either - I don't WANT
> to hold the notes.
>
> I WANT TO TRANSPOSE IT and still have the no flats or sharps KS.
>
> The other possibility on the staff tools is B flat or E flat transposition
> --
> which doesn't wotk either.
>
>
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I could help you with this, but the procedure has changed in 2012. You have to 
change the transposition of the staff to "chromatic", and the way to do this is 
new in 2012.

What version of Finale are you on?

Christopher


On Thu Dec 20, at ThursdayDec 20 9:14 PM, William Sinclair wrote:

> 
> By "stave setup" do you mean the key signature tools option?
> 
> If I want to transpose from C up a major 6th for example, it puts 3 sharps in 
the key
> signature. Something I want to avoid. The other choices are "hold notes to 
chromatic pitches"
> or  "hold notes enharmonically". I don't want those either - I don't WANT to 
hold the notes.
> 
> I WANT TO TRANSPOSE IT and still have the no flats or sharps KS.
> 
> The other possibility on the staff tools is B flat or E flat transposition --
> which doesn't wotk either.
> 
> 
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Listers, 
 
I have been doing a setting of a piece in cut time.  The piece has lots of 
eighth notes in groups of 4.....and often, the grouping is 2 eighths, eighth 
rest/eighth note.  Finale beams all four together, but I only want the first 2 
eighths beamed, leaving the rest and the final eighth un beamed.  I am sure 
there is an intelligent way to set this up so that I don't have to keep 
"regrouping" the figures, but I just can't figure out how to do it. 
 
Suggestions, please. 
 
Thanks, 
 
Larry Eden 
 

 
 


 
        
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Use the Contextual Menu (two ways, either in Selection Tool right click (or 
control click in Mac) the time sig, or in the Time Sig tool right click the 
first bar where you want it) and select "2/2 (beam as 4/4)" or "Cut Time (beam 
as 4/4)". This will not change anything already entered, but from now on it 
will 
beam 4 8ths together (assuming you have that option selected in Doc 
Options>Beaming.) You can Rebeam (Utilities menu) to change things that have 
already been entered.

Christopher


On Fri Dec 21, at FridayDec 21 9:36 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote:

> Listers,
> 
> I have been doing a setting of a piece in cut time.  The piece has 
> lots of eighth notes in groups of 4.....and often, the grouping is 2 
> eighths, eighth rest/eighth note.  Finale beams all four together, 
> but I only want the first 2 eighths beamed, leaving the rest and the 
> final eighth un beamed.  I am sure there is an intelligent way to set 
> this up so that I don't have to keep "regrouping" the figures, but I 
> just can't figure out how to do it.
> 
> Suggestions, please.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Larry Eden
> _______________________________________________
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