I agree 100% that accidentals ABOVE the note is the way to add cautionary acci's. Solves all of the problems mentioned. On Nov 13, 2013 3:35 AM, "Clif Ashcraft" <wa2...@optonline.net> wrote:
> Anyone know whether the bug on accidentals tied into the next measure has > been fixed in the 2014 version? In all past versions, if you scan in a > score and have a note that is natural in the key signature but has an > accidental in front of it in this instance and the note is tied to another > note in the next measure, you invariably find that the note in the next > measure is natural and does not have the accidental applied. It looks > normal, but if you delete the tie you see that the accidental does not > appear. On playback you get an half step rise or fall in pitch as you > cross the end of measure line. Very frustrating. After scanning in a > score you have to check every tied accidental and make sure it is done > right. For musical typesetting application it does not matter because it > looks right. It is only a problem for playback. The same problem happens > if the note is sharp or flat in the key signature and a natural sign is > applied in front of the note which is tied into the next measure. The note > in the nest measure is not natural, but sharp or flat as in the key > signature. I find this a very annoying and time wasting bug in the program. > > Clif Ashcraft > > On Nov 12, 2013, at 1:00 PM, finale-requ...@shsu.edu wrote: > > > Send Finale mailing list submissions to > > finale@shsu.edu > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > finale-requ...@shsu.edu > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > finale-ow...@shsu.edu > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Finale digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: random thoughts on 2014 (Craig Parmerlee) > > 2. Playing back a score (Barbara Levy) > > 3. Re: Playing back a score (christopher.sm...@videotron.ca) > > 4. Re: Playing back a score (dershem) > > 5. Re: Playing back a score (John Blane) > > 6. Re: Playing back a score (John Blane) > > > > From: Craig Parmerlee <cr...@parmerlee.com> > > Date: November 11, 2013 2:36:10 PM EST > > To: <finale@shsu.edu> > > Subject: Re: [Finale] random thoughts on 2014 > > Reply-To: <finale@shsu.edu> > > > > > > Yes, this is exactly what happens to me. I find myself sight-reading > live performances a more often than I would like. I guess I am good enough > at it that people are willing to call me in an emergency. Every time I > trip up on one of these redundant accidentals non-parenthesized, I cuss the > mother of whoever did that notation. > > > > Either put the parentheses in there or leave out the cautionaries > altogether. That's why we have key signatures. > > > > The only exception I would make is for music targeted at students in the > 8th-20th week of playing an instrument. Before that time, they don't see > accidentals. After that time, they should be reading accidentals properly. > > > > > > > > On 11/10/2013 4:45 PM, Lawrence Yates wrote: > >> Steve P, > >> > >> I agree entirely. On seeing a cautionary accidental without > parenthesis I > >> would, for a split second, think I must have missed a natural earlier. > >> That split second is enough to disturb my sight reading. > >> > >> All the best, > >> > >> Lawrence > >> > >> > >> On 10 November 2013 19:43, Steve Parker <st...@pinkrat.co.uk> wrote: > >> > >>> another differing opinion.. > >>> I sightread a lot for a living, but I don't like cautionarys without > >>> parentheses - I find they make my eyes skip back to the key sig. or > >>> original accidental to check. > >>> In keyless music, parantheses are usually redundant. > >>> > >>> Steve P. > >>> > >>> On 10 Nov 2013, at 20:27, Christopher Smith wrote: > >>> > >>>> If you will permit a somewhat differing opinion, I think there are > >>> places where cautionaries are necessary, even when there isn't a key > >>> change, and I have figured out after many years that NON-parenthesised > ones > >>> actually are easier to read. > >>>> I know that parentheses make logical sense, that a parenthesised > >>> accidental is kind of like saying, "I KNOW you know this, but here's a > >>> reminder" to differentiate it from one that is absolutely necessary. > But > >>> from a distance, parentheses around an accidental makes all three > (sharp, > >>> flat, and natural) into the same outline, so you have to read more > closely > >>> to see which accidental it actually is. Already, sharps and naturals > are > >>> easy to confuse with each other; the parentheses make it worse. I keep > >>> getting caught by these on the gigs I do where the Finale user is less > than > >>> professional. And Sibelius seems to have this redundant accidental > default > >>> that puts in accidentals on the SECOND of two tied notes! > >>>> Christopher > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Barbara Levy <barb...@msn.com> > > Date: November 11, 2013 6:07:15 PM EST > > To: Finale Discussion <finale@shsu.edu> > > Subject: [Finale] Playing back a score > > Reply-To: <finale@shsu.edu> > > > > > > Hello, all............ > > > > OK, I'm trying to play back a score with a chord progression on the > piano part. Is there any way to turn off the playing of the chords so I > can hear the melody and the other parts I've written? The only way I've > found to do that is to remove the chord progression and do a "save as", but > this is rather tedious. > > > > Many thanks! > > > > Barb Levy, Orlando, FL > > > > > > > > > > From: <christopher.sm...@videotron.ca> > > Date: November 11, 2013 6:14:45 PM EST > > To: <finale@shsu.edu> > > Subject: Re: [Finale] Playing back a score > > Reply-To: <finale@shsu.edu> > > > > > > In the Chord Tool, Chord Menu, deselect Enable Chord Playback. That will > disable ALL chords through the entire document. If you only want the piano > chords disactivated, it depends on the version of Finale you have, but it > is either the Instrument List or the Score Manager that you need, click on > the arrow next to the staff to open a list of things to be enabled or > disabled. > > > > Christopher > > > > On 11/11/13, Barbara Levy <barb...@msn.com> wrote: > >> Hello, all............ > >> > >> OK, I'm trying to play back a score with a chord progression on the > piano part. Is there any way to turn off the playing of the chords so I can > hear the melody and the other parts I've written? The only way I've found > to do that is to remove the chord progression and do a "save as", but this > is rather tedious. > >> > >> Many thanks! > >> > >> Barb Levy, Orlando, FL > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Finale mailing list > >> Finale@shsu.edu > >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > From: dershem <ders...@cox.net> > > Date: November 11, 2013 6:17:17 PM EST > > To: <finale@shsu.edu> > > Subject: Re: [Finale] Playing back a score > > Reply-To: <finale@shsu.edu> > > > > > > On 11/11/2013 3:07 PM, Barbara Levy wrote: > >> Hello, all............ > >> > >> OK, I'm trying to play back a score with a chord progression on the > piano part. Is there any way to turn off the playing of the chords so I > can hear the melody and the other parts I've written? The only way I've > found to do that is to remove the chord progression and do a "save as", but > this is rather tedious. > >> > >> Many thanks! > >> > >> Barb Levy, Orlando, FL > > > > Under the Chord menu, uncheck "Enable chord playback". > > > > cd > > > > > > > > > > > > ======= > > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. > > (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.18500) > > http://www.pctools.com/ > > ======= > > > > > > > > > > > > From: John Blane <j...@blanemusic.com> > > Date: November 11, 2013 8:19:28 PM EST > > To: "<finale@shsu.edu>" <finale@shsu.edu> > > Subject: Re: [Finale] Playing back a score > > Reply-To: <finale@shsu.edu> > > > > > > Yes, but I can't go this year. > > > > JB > > Sent from my iPhone using my thumbs w/out a spellchecker > > > > On Nov 11, 2013, at 5:14 PM, <christopher.sm...@videotron.ca> wrote: > > > >> In the Chord Tool, Chord Menu, deselect Enable Chord Playback. That > will disable ALL chords through the entire document. If you only want the > piano chords disactivated, it depends on the version of Finale you have, > but it is either the Instrument List or the Score Manager that you need, > click on the arrow next to the staff to open a list of things to be enabled > or disabled. > >> > >> Christopher > >> > >> On 11/11/13, Barbara Levy <barb...@msn.com> wrote: > >>> Hello, all............ > >>> > >>> OK, I'm trying to play back a score with a chord progression on the > piano part. Is there any way to turn off the playing of the chords so I can > hear the melody and the other parts I've written? The only way I've found > to do that is to remove the chord progression and do a "save as", but this > is rather tedious. > >>> > >>> Many thanks! > >>> > >>> Barb Levy, Orlando, FL > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Finale mailing list > >>> Finale@shsu.edu > >>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Finale mailing list > >> Finale@shsu.edu > >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: John Blane <j...@blanemusic.com> > > Date: November 11, 2013 8:22:21 PM EST > > To: "<finale@shsu.edu>" <finale@shsu.edu> > > Subject: Re: [Finale] Playing back a score > > Reply-To: <finale@shsu.edu> > > > > > > Oops sorry everyone! > > > > JB > > Sent from my iPhone using my thumbs w/out a spellchecker > > > > On Nov 11, 2013, at 7:19 PM, John Blane <j...@blanemusic.com> wrote: > > > >> Yes, but I can't go this year. > >> > >> JB > >> Sent from my iPhone using my thumbs w/out a spellchecker > >> > >> On Nov 11, 2013, at 5:14 PM, <christopher.sm...@videotron.ca> wrote: > >> > >>> In the Chord Tool, Chord Menu, deselect Enable Chord Playback. That > will disable ALL chords through the entire document. If you only want the > piano chords disactivated, it depends on the version of Finale you have, > but it is either the Instrument List or the Score Manager that you need, > click on the arrow next to the staff to open a list of things to be enabled > or disabled. > >>> > >>> Christopher > >>> > >>> On 11/11/13, Barbara Levy <barb...@msn.com> wrote: > >>>> Hello, all............ > >>>> > >>>> OK, I'm trying to play back a score with a chord progression on the > piano part. Is there any way to turn off the playing of the chords so I can > hear the melody and the other parts I've written? The only way I've found > to do that is to remove the chord progression and do a "save as", but this > is rather tedious. > >>>> > >>>> Many thanks! > >>>> > >>>> Barb Levy, Orlando, FL > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Finale mailing list > >>>> Finale@shsu.edu > >>>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Finale mailing list > >>> Finale@shsu.edu > >>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Finale mailing list > >> Finale@shsu.edu > >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Finale mailing list > > Finale@shsu.edu > > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > _______________________________________________ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
