I remember Steve Reich coming to town  (Toronto) for a performance of Music for 
18 Musicians. He spoke before the performance and in his preface he made the 
comment that we might well be asking ourselves why we were seeing 20 musicians 
on stage.  Yep.  Clarinet and Bass Clarinet was not a permitted double by union 
rules.

GJB
 

________________________________
 From: J D Thomas <j...@thomastudios.com>
To: finale@shsu.edu 
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 12:39:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Finale] Union rules on doubling
  

Thanks Gary, and all who chimed in with what they know.  Very, very 
informative.  Exactly what I was looking for.

J D Thomas
ThomaStudios

On Mar 17, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Greg Hamilton <greghamil...@shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi J D,
> 
> Just to clarify, each AFM Local determines their own rules for doubling for 
> Live engagements, in other words, any engagement falling within their 
> jurisdiction. Rules for Electronic media agreements (i.e. film, TV, sound 
> recording, etc.) are determined at the national level by the AFM Agreement in 
> which the session would be recorded under.
> 
> I would double check with the local in which the gig is taking place, just to 
> be sure.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> Greg
> 
> Greg Hamilton
> Music Service
> Office: 604.420.COPY (2679)
> Cel: 604.612.9204
> 
>> From: J D Thomas <j...@thomastudios.com>
>> Subject: [Finale] Union rules on doubling
>> Date: 16 March, 2014 5:12:14 PM PDT
>> To: "<finale@shsu.edu>" <finale@shsu.edu>
>> Reply-To: <finale@shsu.edu>
>> 
>> 
>> I had a phone conversation with a client earlier today.  And the topic of 
>> doublings came up.  This is going to happen in a live situation, not in the 
>> studio.  He is going to have a situation where the two clarinets are going 
>> to most likely be playing both Bb and A clarinets.  Someone from NYC checked 
>> into it for him and told him that the two clarinets were considered the same 
>> under union doubling rules.
>> 
>> I am a member of Local 47, Los Angeles, and I told him if a player picks up 
>> another instrument and plays it on a session, it's a double.  Period.  He 
>> argued that this was not the case with classical performances and reiterated 
>> that the two clarinets are considered the same.  I countered that they were 
>> not, and he was getting erroneous information.
>> 
>> I'd like to hear what everyone knows on this issue.  I did many, many 
>> sessions in LA when I lived there for 21 years.  Both live and recorded.  
>> But I will admit my memory is foggy; I've been out of LA for over 13 years.  
>> But I do recall that if a played picks up another axe, it's a double.
>> 
>> Any and all opinions are most welcome.
>> 
>> J D Thomas
>> ThomaStudios
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