Hi John, for instance: With a Bb trumpet or clarinet, the part is transposed up a major second from concert pitch - so if the concert key of a piece is Eb, the trumpet and clarinet part will be transposed to F. This doesn't change if you're working without a key sig. - the part still has to be transposed up M2 from concert. If a keyless score has an E with a flat accidental, the part will show an F with no accidental.
Whether you're working on a keyless score or one with a key sig., unless you're really used to working with transposing instruments it's safest to enter all the notes in concert pitch and then add the transpostions later and let Finale work out the accidentals for you. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Witmer" <wit...@nctv.com> To: <finale@shsu.edu> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Keyless Signature Darcy, Please explain. If a chart doesn't have a key to begin with, how can it be transposed? Just looking to learn. John Witmer Clemson Downs Retirement Center ----- Original Message ----- From: Darcy James Argue To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Keyless Signature Keyless scores are not the same as concert pitch scores. Keyless scores are often transposed — just transposed without using key signatures. Cheers, - DJA ----- WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Jul 26, 2014, at 1:32 PM, Dean Rosenthal <deanrosent...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Darcy, > > Yes, that makes sense. I wouldn't know about the staff styles because I > don't use that feature (or don't understand it, I just work with the staves > directly, I should probably learn this, I don't know what Staff Styles does > that I can't do antoher other way). However, is the use of keyless for > transposition any different from "show in concert pitch" – that's what I've > always used, both to score and to print. You can even flip back and forth > this way. I suppose it's nice to start a document from scratch without > altering the score with a keyless signature. > > Best, > Dean > > On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 1:00 PM, <finale-requ...@shsu.edu> wrote: > >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Darcy James Argue <djar...@icloud.com> >> To: <finale@shsu.edu> >> Cc: >> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 14:37:41 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 2014: Looking back, looking forward >> Transposing instruments and staff styles don't use key signatures in >> keyless scores. >> >> Cheers, >> >> - DJA >> ----- >> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org >> >> On Jul 25, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Dean Rosenthal <deanrosent...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I also look forward to learning how a keyless signature is any different >> than writing in C or A min > > > > > > -- > Dean Rosenthal > www.deanrosenthal.org > _______________________________________________ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4716 / Virus Database: 3986/7925 - Release Date: 07/26/14 _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
