Josh wrote:
> Hi,
>  
> I recently switched over to Mac OSX from Windows, and I wanted to know 
> more about Fink. When Fink is installed on my Mac, what happens? Is it a 
> background program that runs all the time, or is it like an application 
> that I can open and quit at my disgression? Also, I was led to the page 
> mainly through one program, Valknut. Hoping to switch seemlessly from 
> DC++ to a Mac-able program, I can only get Valknut through Fink? If so 
> (and I'm assuming that Valknut is a Linux program, and that Fink will 
> automatically compile it/port it for me onto Mac), will I need to run 
> Fink everytime I want to use Valknut? Can I uninstall Fink after I have 
> installed Valknut? Thanks.
>  
> Josh

Fink is a set of tools that lets you manage the installation of programs 
(packages in the Fink lingo).  Some packages are Mac specific programs, 
some are multi platform, some were originally Linux specific but have 
been ported over by people in the Fink project.  You can see the list of 
packages available at <http://pdb.finkproject.org/pdb/>.

Fink does not run in the background but only when you call it to 
install/remove a package.  The package(s) that you install can sometimes 
be an always running program (like say the apache web server), but most 
are normal programs (like games, text editors, drawing programs, etc). 
Fink can be run either from the command line (type 'man fink' in 
Terminal.app for all it's options) or with a graphical front end called 
Fink Commander that then runs the necessary commands in the background. 
  Both do the same thing, just different ways.

(Most) everything that Fink installs goes into the folder /sw on your 
hard drive (unless you changed the default).  If you ever want to remove 
Fink (and everything else it installed), just remove that folder and 
that's it.  One of the FAQs on the Fink homepage go through all the 
details on how to do it completely.  This will, however, remove all the 
packages that were installed with Fink, not just the Fink tools.

As far as Valknut is concerned (I'm the Valknut maintainer for the Fink 
project), you can install Valknut using Fink which then takes care of 
downloading, building and installing all the supporting libraries that 
Valknut requires.

This is as easy as installing the package valknut-x11 or valknut-aqua 
(-aqua looks more Mac like, -x11 looks more linux/unixish but the 
interface has some less bugs).  The underlying functionality is the 
same.  You can install both packages to test which you you like more 
(just don't run them at the same time!)

However, I do have precompiled binaries of Valknut available at 
<http://www.snaggledworks.com/software/valknut/>, although none are 
currently available for Intel Macs (which is what I'm guessing you 
probably have), so if you have an Intel Mac, you currently need to use 
Fink to install Valknut (which does know how to build on Intel Macs).

If you install Valknut via Fink, you cannot remove Fink and expect 
Valknut (or whatever other package you install with it) to continue 
functioning because you'll invariably remove something that they 
require.  Also, the aggregate size of the Fink tools is small compared 
to even a small program that Fink can install, so not much hard drive 
space is saved if you could just delete the Fink tools.  And once a 
package is installed, you don't use the Fink tools to actually run the 
program, only to (un)install it.  The programs themselves are run on 
their own as if you had manually done the installation yourself.

Hanspeter


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