On Sunday 10 February 2008 02:09:15 pm Lloyd Wood wrote:
> At Sunday 10/02/2008 12:55 -0500, Alexander K. Hansen wrote:
> >I think you mean 0.27.8 :-)
> >
> >Luckily, this is easy to clarify.
> >
> >10.4 and 10.5 use a common tree so there's no issue there.
> >
> >On Leopard, we're only supporting Apple's X11, so you'll need to install
> > that (both X11User and X11SDK).  (I don't recall Fink ever having an
> >xfree86-server package)
>
> Then why does
> http://www.finkproject.org/doc/bundled/install-fast.php#install
> explicitly state
> fink install xfree86-server gimp
> when there is no xfree86-server, and (as the other poster points out) there
> is no gimp package either?
>

Because the instructions were initially written back when we had an 
xfree86-server package (2001) and updates to the page nobody caught that 
change.  And because they don't mention the requirement of downloading 
package descriptions after boostrap, which they really should.

> (it strikes me the example showing everything works should be for something
> small, useful, and with minimal dependencies. gimp and xfree86-server fail
> at least two out of three.)
>
> X11.app is already installed in Applications/Utilities and running.

X11.app by itself is irrelevant.  You can have that and no headers.  For that 
matter, you can have the .app bundle with no X11 libraries.

> Ah, /usr/X11R6/include is empty, so the headers etc. weren't included in
> the downloadable Xcode 3.0.pkg. Which might be less surprising if it was
> called anything other than 'Xcode'.
>
> So, I finally had to use the install DVDs, rather than pull it off Apple's
> site. Found X11SDK and X11Documentation.pkg on Disc 1 in
> Optional Installs/XCode Tools/Packages/
> no sign of any X11User.pkg.

It's in the main OS additional packages install.  Don't blame us--we have 
absolutely nothing to do with how Apple packages stuff.

>
> (And there are the OpenGL headers in their own package, too! I'd been
> wondering where they were.)
>
> >And you need to install Xcode 3.0 if you haven't already,
>
> yes, have that.
>
> >and then use "fink
> >selfupdate-rsync" to get the package descriptions--they aren't included
> > when you bootstrap.
>
> That has never worked.
>
> $ fink selfupdate-rsync
> Failed: Sorry, fink doesn't support rsync updating in the 10.5 distribution
> at present.
>
> selfupdate-rsync isn't supported under 10.5. Suggestions to get package
> descriptions?
>

selfupdate-cvs

I'm not sure why it says selfupdate-rsync doesn't work, though.  I use it 
under fink-0.28.0 ; I'm not sure when it got fixed.

> >apt-get doesn't do anything, because there is no binary distribution for
> >Leopard yet.
>
> thanks.
>
-- 
Alexander K. Hansen
akh AT finkproject DOT org
Fink User Liaison and Documenter

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