given how painful (for the developers) the 10.1->10.2 upgrade was, I
think they'd probably just as soon let the users be responsible for the
their own environment settings.

On Wed, 2003-02-26 at 15:33, Remi Mommsen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Yes indeed this could be a problem. However, I have a customized 
> csh.cshrc since 10.2 came out and none of the incremental updates since 
> then touched those files. If this would happen (maybe when moving to 
> 10.3) one would have to rerun the script which adds the 'source 
> /sw/bin/init.csh'. I cannot juge if this could be automated by a fink 
> upgrade script or if at this point the user would have to run a script 
> manually. However, given the many problems reported on these lists 
> concerning .tcshrc and .cshrc I think this would be a minor burden.
> 
> Cheers,
>               Remi
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 12:03  PM, Alexander Hansen wrote:
> 
> > Indeed, one could do that.  I've even suggested to people who want to
> > set fink up for all users on a machine.  The problem (which I had
> > forgotten about) is that incremental operating system updates (10.2.x 
> > ->
> > 10.2.x+1) could wipe it out.
> >
> > Since the Users Guide gets updated more frequently, it might be worth
> > expanding the "Setting up your Environment" chapter.  I've been
> > referring people to this, rather than the umpteen other places where
> > they are told how to set up a .cshrc, so checking the list archives is
> > likely to point them in the right direction, anyway.
> >
> > On Wed, 2003-02-26 at 14:32, Remi Mommsen wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Another solution to this problem would be to add the 'source
> >> /sw/bin/init.(c)sh' not to the users local files, but to the system
> >> wides /etc/bashrc resp. /etc/csh.cshrc. The /etc/csh.cshrc is read
> >> before the local .cshrc or .tcshrc of csh and tcsh. This could even be
> >> done automatically during the fink setup.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>            Remi
> >>
> >> On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 08:14  AM, Alexander Hansen wrote:
> >>
> >>> There has been additional discussion about .tcshrc interfering with
> >>> .cshrc .  A suggestion was made about adding to the documentation the
> >>> info about what to do in the event of a .tcshrc .  That seems like a
> >>> lot
> >>> of work to me.
> >>> -- 
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