-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 John Ridgway wrote:
| Two of these were submitted on 2/16 and nothing has happened with | respect to them. One was submitted on 2/16 and a comment made upon it | on 2/24, which I responded to the same day; and the other was | submitted on 11/28; with no response until 2/9. I understand that | everybody involved with the project are probably busy; but it makes | non-core maintainers like me doubt whether it's worth doing anything | at all. Yeah, it's a no-win situation. We don't have time to review things and groom non-core folks to get commit access, and things don't happen because people don't have commit access. =) I'll take a look at them tonight. | I'm not even mentioning (well, obviously I am) the fact that I | submitted packages system-texlive, tetex-texmf-texlive and tetex-base- | texlive in September and the bare indication that | 'The role within fink of "system" packages such as this one is | currently under review by the fink core team.' I understand that this | is a serious issue, but nothing is happening! The only version of TeX | that is available with Fink is teTeX 3.0, which is getting seriously | dated. Yeah. I think it's one of those things that when any of us who have been around for a long time thinks about it, the brain just shuts down. ~ There has been no end of trouble with tetex/texmf/etc stuff breaking and changing incompatibly, and there were comments from the upstream that they have no intention of providing any kind of guarantees on functionality nor the locations of things when new versions come out (if I recall correctly) so the whole thing left a very bad taste in everyone's mouths. Honestly, since I *don't* use those things, I don't feel qualified to have any opinion on the system-*tex* stuff, this is all based on what I recall of IRC conversations, and I'm not sure if anyone else has the expertise to say. Perhaps someone else can jump in. ~From my point of view, if we have someone who's willing to make sure it *stays* compatible and work around potential upstream issues, I'm fine with having it, but given it's history, it will need active maintainership. | Also; it might be nice if somebody (I can't do it because I don't have | the information) would post what the status of the Fink project is. | Is anybody getting paid to do this, or is it all in people's spare | time? Who is making the decisions? We all do it in our spare time. As a whole, we have things we want to do, but have recently not had a lot of time to coordinate things. | I think that's enough venting for now. I'm sorry to trouble people, | but I'm trying to help, and feel like I'm submitting stuff into a | vacuum. Nah, it's understandable; Fink can chug along quite nicely without infrastructure changes, but if it's hard for maintainers to get updates out, it's bad for everyone. Alexander Hansen has, for the most part, taken on the monumental task of helping folks who submit stuff to the trackers, but I think most of us with commit access are in agreement that the SF tracker *sucks* and try to avoid it if possible. Unfortunately, the aforementioned time issue makes it hard to come up with something better than the trackers. :) Perhaps we should try to get a proposal out for Summer of Code and see if someone wants to help us with some longstanding infrastructure work we've needed to do. Anyways, it's not for lack of wanting, and we're certainly not *trying* to have folks get frustrated. - -- Benjamin Reed a.k.a. Ranger Rick Fink, KDE, and Mac OS X development http://www.racoonfink.com/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHz0oVUu+jZtP2Zf4RAlgJAJkBNLnyEJs1A4ly1U4Jow/XKCqdLgCfRDPO o1a546zYbHumLPK7CDg89Eo= =2Wh0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net http://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.apple.fink.devel
