On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 19:50:30 -0400, Daniel Johnson wrote: > On Apr 13, 2011, at 6:43 PM, Alexander Hansen wrote: > > On 4/5/11 8:34 AM, Max Horn wrote: > >> > >> And so on. I would like to propose that all obsolete packages receive a common, uniform description, namely: > >> > >> "OBSOLETE use FOO instead" > >> or maybe better > >> "OBSOLETE use package 'FOO' instead" > >> > >> or something like that. Likewise, the DescDetail could be unified. Of course this change would have to go along with a revision increment. We may want to > > > > I found one issue when I was trying to make a package obsolete: > > > > $ fink dumpinfo -fdescription treeline > > Information about 10150 packages read in 1 seconds. > > description: OBSOLETE use 'treeline-x11' package instead > > > > $ fink validate > > /sw32/fink/dists/unstable/main/finkinfo/utils/treeline-1.2.4-3.info > > Validating package file > > /sw32/fink/dists/unstable/main/finkinfo/utils/treeline-1.2.4-3.info... > > Warning: Description contains package name. (treeline-1.2.4-3.info) > > > > This is fatal in maintainer mode. > > This is an annoying limitation and I wonder if it should be removed from the validator. While they aren't common, I can think of a number of reasons to have the package name incorporated into the Description, not just for obsolete packages. For example, when I made the 'lzma' package I wanted to use the Description 'LZMA file compressor', which is what it is. I couldn't think of a reasonable Description that didn't have the string 'lzma' in it so I used 'L Z M A file compressor' to trick the validator even though it was horribly kludgy. Fortunately, that package is now obsolete and its Description is 'OBSOLETE Use xz instead'. :) > > I do like Max's suggestion to use "OBSOLETE use package 'FOO' instead" and I'll probably change it for the next version. I have several obsolete packages so I'll have to audit them all. Would be easy to make validator relax its Description test for obsolete packages (there are already other special allowances for them that are fatal otherwise). The rationale for the normal "No %n in Description" rule is that Description is always displayed in the vicinity (and often the very next string word after) %n: "lzma LZMA file compressor" seems pretty silly. We already know it's called lzma, just need a phrase that describes WTF that is. "Command-line file-compression tool" says even more (and more useful) info. Max (or whoever decides what pattern has consensus as a best-practice), please update the fink-wiki page (see 'fink info fink-obsolete-packages'). dan
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