Is there any possibility that we can just disable the need for Tex by telling 
some package with a configure option that it should build it's Tex docs?

  -- Dave



On Jun 29, 2012, at 9:50 AM, TheSin <the...@southofheaven.org> wrote:

> I already thought of these options, the problem would be the same problem I 
> see with gettext-tools, the desync in revisions with double pkgs is very 
> misleading and double the work.  I've pretty much been working 8+ hours a day 
> some days 24hours a day working on debian tools for fink for the last week.  
> It's lots of work and splitting things up makes even more work, now we need a 
> package that patches out po4a, then a package that patches everything else 
> out and only make the po4a.
> 
> Honestly I think we just need to pick one.
> 
> a) smaller depends and no intl man pages
> b) suck it up and support for ppl that don't speak english.
> 
> The sad reality is that debian is going to use po4a for everything and is 
> already almost there, so we just have to choose.  At this point I have chosen 
> a to make ppl happy, locales at this point as still there so runtime isn't 
> po4a dependant, only man pages.  Though I do believe that locales will be 
> going to po4a as well in the future.
> ---
> TS
> http://www.southofheaven.org/
> Life begins and ends with chaos, live between the chaos!
> 
> On 2012-06-29, at 9:08 AM, Alexander Hansen wrote:
> 
>> On 6/29/12 7:13 AM, TheSin wrote:
>>> po4a has been removed, since I only speak en this doesn't affect me at all, 
>>> po4a = po 4 all, aka it's an i18n man/locale translator, so now both 
>>> debianutils and sensible-utils will install international man pages but I 
>>> believe they won't be translated.  Not a huge deal to make people happy I 
>>> suppose, but in the future we are still going to have an issue with 
>>> install-info being removed form dpkg, debian uses tex for install-info now. 
>>>  So we need a plan to deal with this if people already complain from a few 
>>> required tools.
>>> 
>>> Anyhow the none po4a version are in cvs now.
>>> ---
>>> TS
>>> http://www.southofheaven.org/
>>> Life begins and ends with chaos, live between the chaos!
>>> 
>> 
>> Let's take this to -devel.
>> 
>> I had a couple of thoughts here:
>> 
>> 1)  Make a non-essential, non-splitoff companion package to build and
>> install the translated manpages via po4a.
>> 
>> 2)  Do a local build including all the manpages, put those in a tarball
>> (e.g. with top directory share/ to be friendly to those not using the
>> default Fink path), upload them somewhere, make that a SourceN, and
>> install the pre-compiled pages into the .deb.
>> 
>> 3) Get a bindist.  (not a near-term option).
>> -- 
>> Alexander Hansen, Ph.D.
>> Fink User Liaison
>> My package updates: http://finkakh.wordpress.com/
>> 
>> 
> 
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