On 9/2/12 7:47 PM, Bill Waggoner wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 10:38 PM, Alexander Hansen
> <alexanderk.han...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 9/2/12 7:25 PM, Bill Waggoner wrote:
>>> On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Hanspeter Niederstrasser
>>> <f...@snaggledworks.com> wrote:
>>>> On 9/2/2012 8:47 PM, Alexander Hansen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/2/12 4:01 PM, Bill Waggoner wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Hanspeter Niederstrasser
>>>>>> <f...@snaggledworks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/2/2012 12:23 AM, Bill Waggoner wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 12:04 AM,
>>>>>>>> <fink-devel-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 01:03:52 -0300
>>>>>>>>> From: Gustavo Benedito Reis Costa <gusbened...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Fink-devel] Please,   add GoldenDict and update Gimp 2.6 to
>>>>>>>>>           2.8.1 to Fink
>>>>>>>>> To: fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello developers,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Good evening!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm new to Fink forum.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I noticed Gimp 2.6 is outdated and GoldenDict isn't included in Fink
>>>>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>>> I would like you add GoldenDict app and update Gimp for Fink, but I
>>>>>>>>> prefer
>>>>>>>>> you add GoldenDict, because it's one of most important applications of
>>>>>>>>> Linux.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You can see the discussions that I had with GoldenDict developers:
>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/goldendict/goldendict/issues/124
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your attention, understanding, help and patience!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gustavo Reis
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gimp 2.8.2 is now native OSX.  If someone would guide me through
>>>>>>>> putting together a Fink package I'd like to work to get that done.  I
>>>>>>>> have many, many years of systems experience but I've not put together
>>>>>>>> a Fink package.  Sounds like it might be a challenge ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unfortunately, Fink's gimp2 is not upgradeable to the latest 2.8.2
>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>> of missing dependencies. A quick check through the configure script
>>>>>>> shows
>>>>>>> that it needs babl-0.1.10 (Fink has 0.1.4) and gegl-0.2 (Fink has
>>>>>>> 0.1.6).
>>>>>>> Those are probably easily updateable.  However, it also has a requirment
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> glib-2.30.2 and Fink's glib2 is stuck at 2.22 because newer glib2 is
>>>>>>> broken
>>>>>>> on OS X in the latest versions.  There might be more missing
>>>>>>> dependencies,
>>>>>>> but I stopped at glib2 since it's fatal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So until glib2 is correctly buildable under OS X, gimp2 is stuck at 2.6.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hanspeter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> babl/gegl maintainer cc'd
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would it be productive for me to take a look into glib2?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill W
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My understanding of the situation with glib2 is that:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Upstream has made changes in the code that break some, but not all,
>>>>> functionality on OS X.  (I don't have a good bug tracker reference, and
>>>>> I don't recall exactly what is currently broken in their nominally
>>>>> stable release, but maybe someone else can pass that along).
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) They don't care about OS X (based on responses to bug reports filed
>>>>> by the maintainer).
>>>>>
>>>>> With those caveats being given, sure, take a look. :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you want to take a look at the latest (not really working) package
>>>> description for glib2, download it from here:
>>>>
>>>> http://fink.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/fink/experimental/dmacks/finkinfo/gnome/
>>>>
>>>> and save it to /sw/fink/dists/local/main/finkinfo
>>>>
>>>> The glib2.info file lists the upstream filed bugs.
>>>>
>>>> Hanspeter
>>>>
>>>
>>> Interesting.  And I will dig deeper.
>>>
>>> But can you explain why Gimp 2.8.2 runs native on OSX but appears to
>>> depend on an incompatible library?  I don't understand how that can
>>> be.  I am, obviously, confused.
>>>
>>> Bill W
>>>
>>
>> It probably doesn't need the full functionality.  Fink's glib2 has to
>> work for _all_ existing packages that use it, but an isolated app bundle
>> build of Gimp may need less.
>>
>> --
>> Alexander Hansen, Ph.D.
>> Fink User Liaison
>> My package updates: http://finkakh.wordpress.com/
> 
> Got it.  I'm going to dig into it and if I get anything useful I'll
> let you know.  I think it would be good to have an OSX-native gimp in
> fink.  No promises.
> 
> Bill W
> 

That would also require an Aqua-based rather than X11-based GTK.  I'm
not sure what the current status of that is.  People looked at it for
Fink a while ago and my recollection was that it didn't coexist nicely
with the X11 GTK.
-- 
Alexander Hansen, Ph.D.
Fink User Liaison
My package updates: http://finkakh.wordpress.com/

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