On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Wizard Consulting wrote:

> It also appears that I now have X11 software in the Mac OS X section of
> my system that I did NOT install - the only place I even experimented
> with it was under Fink.

My understanding is that this is normal: everything Fink installs should
end up in, by default, /sw. The notable exception to this is X11, which
needs to do under your /usr/X11R6 tree. My understanding is that X and
anything that has to be installed as part of X (not including mere
graphical applications or window managers) goes over in /usr/X11R6, and
everything else gets sandboxed back in /sw. Others could describe the
reasons for this better than I can, but apparently X "wants" very badly to
have that path, and 'porting' it to the /sw tree broke too many things. 

Also note that, in my experience, using dselect has been less than
stellar, for reasons a lot like the ones you describe. If you use fink in
the "standard" way -- "sudo fink install dia" for example -- then it does
go out and get the needed dependencies; dselect on the other hand has been
buggy for me, not finding packages, not finding dependencies, etc. On the
other hand, this isn't all that different from when I tried it on Debian
recently, so I'm not ready to blame the Fink folks for that yet. It's a
pain having to build *everything*, but it seems like the binary install
methods currently available just aren't on par with source installations. 

> Then, in place of 1 error message, I then got 4-6 other error messages,
> none of which I understand.

Did you try emailing these errors to the Fink lists? 

> I'd really like a response from someone at sourceforge about this. I'm
> not trying to start an uproar, just to determine if I've misunderstood
> something very fundamental or there's something screwy going on here. 

Well it may be late to ask this now, but it would have helped to see what
those recent error messages you got were. I saw that you mailed to the
list[s] recently, but honestly don't recall the contents of the messages
at the moment. 

In general, when sending a tech support mail to a list like this, it's
best to include as much relevant detail as possible, including [a] what
you were trying to accomplish (you've done this well :), [b] exactly what
commands you issued (you've done this too), [c] what error messages or
other abnormal output you may have received (...), and [d] any relevant
setup details like what's installed, what version numbers, any chances
made to configuration files, etc. Basically, the idea is to describe your
environment thoroughly & accurately enough that others can spot what might
be going wrong or, if necessary and in desperation, others can try to
duplicate your situation in an attempt to help isolate the problem. 


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Chris Devers                                [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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