chris,

this actually sounds like a good idea! I've had the same problem as 
John, ever since I first tried just using the >console. I usually waited 
for a few minutes (but I'm sure not more than 5) and just forced a 
restart after getting tired of watchin' that stupid beachball all the 
time.... (by the way: who came up with such a silly logo? what drugs 
might he/she have been on?)
but the log file sounds like the best way to get any usable results!

cheers
alex


On Sonntag, April 21, 2002, at 10:43  Uhr, Chris Devers wrote:

> On Sun, 21 Apr 2002, John San wrote:
>
>> When logged in as >console, X11 will not exit, ie: "startx" will start
>> the X11 session, logging out will 'hang' - the X11 screens will close,
>> but on a blank graphics background, the cursor will change to the
>> "spinning multi-color CD" and will sit there forever.
>
> How long is forever? I've had X11 problems kinda similar to this, and
> logouts would take a long time to get back to a prompt -- logout times 
> on
> the order of five minutes or so. Will it really hang indefinitely, or do
> you just see this for a couple of minutes? If you can ssh in from 
> another
> machine, can you bring up process listings to see what's going on?
>
> In my case, if I got bored waiting I'd go over to my fiance's Win98 box
> and kill off an X related processes of mine that I saw in a "ps ax | 
> grep
> chris".  Ugly, and surely not the right way to fix things, but it 
> worked.
>
> Are you sure you didn't see any FAQs about X11 logout timeouts? I 
> thought
> there was something, but I'm not sure.
>
> Another idea would be to pipe the whole X session to a log file for 
> later
> autopsies. Do a "startx |& tee ~/startx.log", then log in & immediately
> try to get back out. If you can get to that log file (remotely, or from
> another machine, or even from an xterm while X is running) you might be
> able to see something that explains where the problem is coming from.
>
>
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