On Sun, Aug 01, 2004 at 11:05:22PM -0400, Aron Trauring wrote:
> Sigh! sigh! Am I the only one having an awful time with Fink? I 
> appreciate all the hard work of all the people involved in this 
> important project. But out of 4 Macs I have only succeeded in getting it 
> to work properly on two. And I have two iBook G4s and I got it to work 
> properly on one and not on another (unfortunately the one that works is 
> overseas so I cant do any comparisons).
[...]
> So if someone can give me reasonable advice on how to move forward
> so i dont end up wasting more time, I would very much appreciate
> it. Thanks for hearing me out.

Okay, first take a deep breath. Fink is much less non-deterministic
and mystical than you seem to think.

> So here is my problem. I recently bought an iBook G4 and installed 
> latest version of Fink after installing X11 and the developer packages 
> (all of them) which weren't on the computer. So I immediately ran into 
> the problem I had on my eMac viz. no text showing in the gaim window (or 
> in any other gtk application for that matter).
[did some stuff]
> Some progress. Gaim showed text for username and password although 
> it didn't have any menus. So I said to myself I said, let's go for an 
> unstable install (in any case gaim in binary is useless with Yahoo, and 
> only the unstable version would work).

Unfortunately, not all packages can be made perfect the first time,
and the bindist sometimes has a pretty big lag:( That's why the fink
project has so many ways for you to get help instead of just getting
frustrated. I've seen several reports of various font and other GUI
problems with gaim. I don't know the solution, but for any specific
problem someone may have an answer or a lead on things to try to help
debug the problem.

> So I did rsync-update and source-install for gaim. Even though I
> installed teTex using i Installer, it insisted on installing teTex
> (i understand this may be a problem of my not installing some
> developer files).

Yup, that's a known issue with the iInstaller. It's a commonly-
encountered situation, and has been discussed several times on the
mailing lists and IRC channel. IIRC you have to use expert mode in the
installer and make sure to install the "Tex Programs Developer
Extras".

> But worse, it insisted on install Xfree86-Darwin even though I 
> have Apple X installed.

Again, specific problems can usually be addressed as they occur. In
this case, fink probably didn't think you had installed the Apple
X11SDK package. There's a whole FAQ about this

  http://fink.sourceforge.net/faq/usage-packages.php?phpLang=en#apple-x11-wants-xfree86

But if that doesn't solve your problem or you overlooked that bit of
documentation, mailing lists and #fink could help walk you through
getting it working. Keeping on going hoping a problem will go away is
usually asking for trouble.

> Even though it said it wouldnt overwrite the X11 files, I still saw
> X11-Darwin in the application directory and X wouldnt work.

There are a couple of FAQs and other docs dealing with switching X11
packages.

dan

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