Hi,

Thanks for looking at this.

Starting kde4-mac apps directly just ends up with them complaining that 
they can't talk to klauncher (since kdeinit4 won't start).

With out my unroll env var solution in my other email, your

open -a /sw/opt/kde4/mac/bin/kdeinit4.app

does not work either. It even has the disadvantage of not printing and 
error messages to the terminal, it just dies silently.

Regards,

Thorben

On 21.04.10 15:09, Alexander Hansen wrote:
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> On 4/21/10 6:31 AM, Thorben wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I sent this to the address given with kdelibs4-mac a week ago, but
>> received no reply.
>
> The maintainer is busy with work.  Dealing with KDE problems doesn't put
> food on the table.
>
>> I can't seem to convice kdeinit4 to start, and so all kde4 apps become 
>> useless.
>>
>
> I've never had to launch kdeinit4 manually (albeit on 10.5).
>
>> I have tried, rebuild/reinstall, playing with env vars e.g.:
>>
>> $ env | grep DBUS
>> DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=launchd:env=DBUS_FINK_SESSION_BUS_SOCKET
>> $ launchctl getenv DBUS_FINK_SESSION_BUS_SOCKET
>> /tmp/launch-Qsc1PT/unix_domain_listener
>> $ launchctl getenv DBUS_LAUNCHD_SESSION_BUS_SOCKET
>> $ launchctl setenv DBUS_LAUNCHD_SESSION_BUS_SOCKET
>> /tmp/launch-Qsc1PT/unix_domain_listener
>> $ launchctl getenv DBUS_LAUNCHD_SESSION_BUS_SOCKET
>> /tmp/launch-Qsc1PT/unix_domain_listener
>>
>> Since I saw "DBUS_LAUNCHD_SESSION_BUS_SOCKET" mentioned in kdelibs
>> source code. Nothing helps...
>>
>> Does anyone have any ideas?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Thorben
>>
>> PS Can you please CC me on replies.
>>
>> On 14 April 2010 11:19, Thorben<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I just did a fresh kde4 install on a fresh 10.6 system (64bit, kdelibs
>>> version: 4.4.1-1)
>>>
>>> However kdeinit4 wont start and so all kde4 apps fail...
>>>
>>> $ /sw/opt/kde4/mac/bin/kdeinit4.app/Contents/MacOS/kdeinit4
>
>
> How about
>
> open -a /sw/opt/kde4/mac/bin/kdeinit4.app
>
> ?
>
>>> <unknown program name>(425)/ getBundle: getBundle(
>>> "/sw/opt/kde4/mac/lib/kde4/libexec/klauncher" ,  false ) called
>>> kdeinit4: preparing to launch /sw/opt/kde4/mac/lib/kde4/libexec/klauncher
>>> <unknown program name>(425)/ getBundle: getBundle(
>>> "/sw/opt/kde4/mac/lib/kde4/libexec/kdeinit4_helper" ,  false ) called
>>> <unknown program name>(425)/ getBundle: getBundle(
>>> "/sw/opt/kde4/mac/lib/kde4/libexec/klauncher" ,  false ) called
>>> <unknown program name>(425)/ getBundle: getBundle(
>>> "/sw/opt/kde4/mac/lib/kde4/libexec/klauncher" ,  false ) called
>>> <unknown program name>(426)/ getBundle: getBundle(
>>> "/sw/opt/kde4/mac/lib/kde4/libexec/klauncher" ,  false ) called
>>> <unknown program name>(426)/ launch: kdeinit4: launch() setting argv:
>>> /sw/opt/kde4/mac/lib/kde4/libexec/klauncher
>>> klauncher(426) kdemain: No DBUS session-bus found. Check if you have
>>> started the DBUS server.
>>> kdeinit4: Communication error with launcher. Exiting!
>>>
>>> Checking DBUS:
>>>
>>> $ env | grep DBUS
>>> DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=launchd:env=DBUS_FINK_SESSION_BUS_SOCKET
>>>
>>> $ launchctl getenv DBUS_FINK_SESSION_BUS_SOCKET
>>> /tmp/launch-VtaNHO/unix_domain_listener
>>>
>>> $ ls -l /tmp/launch-VtaNHO/unix_domain_listener
>>> srwx------  1 jandling  wheel  0 14 Apr 10:23
>>> /tmp/launch-VtaNHO/unix_domain_listener
>>>
>>> $ lsof /tmp/launch-VtaNHO/unix_domain_listener
>>> COMMAND   PID     USER   FD   TYPE     DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
>>> launchd   248 jandling   38u  unix 0x083997f0      0t0
>>> /tmp/launch-VtaNHO/unix_domain_listener
>>> dbus-daem 361 jandling    5u  unix 0x083997f0      0t0
>>> /tmp/launch-VtaNHO/unix_domain_listener
>>>
>>> $ ps aux | grep dbus
>>> messagebus   104   0.0  0.0  2435504    336   ??  Ss   10:21am
>>> 0:00.00 /sw/bin/dbus-daemon --system
>>> jandling   538   0.0  0.0  2435468      0 s000  R+   11:17am   0:00.00 grep 
>>> dbus
>>> jandling   361   0.0  0.0  2446888    700   ??  S    10:22am   0:00.01
>>> /sw/bin/dbus-daemon --nofork --session
>>>
>>>
>>> All looks fine...
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> On my 10.5 install it all works fine.
>>>
>>> Thorben
>>>
>>
>
> As I stated, I've never had to launch kdeinit4 manually to get apps to
> run:  I just run them and KDE does its thing--sometimes emitting a lot
> of noisy output.  What happens if you just try to launch an app?
>
> Also, do you have any non-Fink KDE or dbus-related stuff installed?
> - --
> Alexander Hansen
> Fink User Liaison
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