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On Wednesday, January 16, 2002, at 11:17  AM, Alex Taylor wrote:

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> Regarding the firewall.  I'm on an iBook SE and I talk to a number of 
> people on ICQ, MSN, and AOL.  I've gotten the same hang up.  You type a 
> message, hit enter and the rainbow wheel spins forever.  It's done it 
> with both MSN and ICQ friends.  I don't think that it has ever 
> recovered from MSN,  Sometimes, if I wait long enough the ICQ message 
> will go through.  Most of the time I get impatient and force quit and 
> start Fire again.  It was only recently that I was too busy to bother 
> with it and when I went back to Fire, my message had sent and I got a 
> reply.  It does tend to happen if Fire has been sitting unused for 
> awhile.
> Just my observations.

the hang that has been reported (now by 3 or 4 people) involves the 
response *never* coming back from msn that the message was sent 
correctly.

Since that code is down in the MSN library that we are using, there 
wasn't/isn't much we can do about it.

I have heard rumors that the MSN library we use (libmsn) will soon be 
replaced in apps like everybuddy with a fresh from the ground up MSN 
library.  Boy I hope so.  then we can move over to it.

I know that having the app spin forever is annoying (I guarantee it 
happens to me more than most while I'm testing), but I don't see an easy 
fix at all for this ...

Eric

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>> I have a very similar problem with a friend of mine. She's the only 
>> one I
>> have constant trouble with.
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>> It'll be fine, then it just fails and freezes. I sent a sample to 
>> Eric a
>> month or so ago, and he said it looked like Fire was awaiting a 
>> response
>> from MSN, and never gets it.
>>
>> If there is a variable I am aware of, that perhaps you might check 
>> with your
>> friend, is if they are behind a proxy or firewall. I was in my friends
>> office trying to figure out what she's got going there, and found their
>> office connection is 100% routed through MS Proxy server. I'm not 
>> terribly
>> familiar with it, but all traffic on every open port is routed through 
>> that
>> POS. Needless to say, that's why she's now unable to run Fire or even 
>> email
>> through her brand new shiny 14" iBook. Setting up SOCKS routing 
>> doesn't seem
>> to work.
>>
>> Anyhow, that was the nature of my last message, on whether anyone has 
>> gotten
>> fire working behind that hunk-of-junk.
>>
>> Maybe check with the buddy you have issues with and see if they have 
>> such a
>> convoluted proxy/firewall setup. Could be inherent.
>>
>> I look forward to hearing more about this. I wouldn't pull so much 
>> hair out
>> if I could fix this.
>>
>>> so this problem happens with one person. and it happens on
>>> different occasions. it has happened with a first IM. it's
>>> happened with a third one. it happens with the same person.
>>> this person might have an old version of MSN i'm gunna look
>>> into that.
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