Dear readers, on the illegal alien matter, it is true that I treated "illegal alien" 
and "non-resident alien" as synonyms, and I regret the error.  But either way, the man 
was not a US citizen, and that is what mattered in terms of the extent to which the 
4th A. did or did not apply to him.  
Thanks,
Bob Spitzer

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        From: Peter Boucher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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        A nit, IMO, but Clayton is correct on the "illegal alien" question.  See
        below.
        
        > Spitzer:
        > In the syllabus to the Verdugo case, it says this:  "Held: The Fourth
        > Amendment does not apply to the search and seizure by United States
        > agents of property owned by a NONRESIDENT ALIEN [emphasis added]
        > and located in a foreign country."
        
        A nonresident alien is not an illegal alien.  Every foreigner in the
        world residing in his/her home country is a nonresident alien.  To be an
        illegal alien, you must reside here in the U.S., and you must have
        broken immigration law to do so.
        
        > In his majority opinion, CJ Rehnquist writes this:
        > "Relying on our decision in INS v Lopez-Mendoza. . .where a majority
        > of Justices assumed that ILLEGAL ALIENS [emphasis added] in the
        > United States have Fourth Amendment rights. . . ."
        >
        > Illegal alien?  Yes.
        
        No.  They relied on a precedent from a case about illegal aliens (INS v
        Lopez-Mendoza), but that doesn't make Verdugo-Urquidez, a Mexican living
        in Mexico, into an illegal alien. Therefore, Spitzer's paper is
        factually incorrect, where it says:
        "In fact, the [Verdugo-Urquidez] case deals with the Fourth Amendment
        issue of whether an illegal alien from Mexico was entitled to
        constitutional protection regarding searches."
        

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