Yes, I mean ZFS.  Brain fade.

Thanks for catching that.

On 4/4/2014 12:17 AM, marius adrian popa wrote:
> sun xfs is zfs right ?
>
> I will check how the GLP/apache and mpl2 linking works but i know why
> they are using in libreoffice (practical reasons)
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Re-Basing#Why_go_with_the_MPLv2_.3F
>
>
>
> I quote from mpl2 history and its reasons and it is to me quite sane reasons
> (this is the url where they worked on it
> https://web.archive.org/web/20130127034402/https://mpl.mozilla.org/)
>
> What's New
>
> The result of a two year revision process that included feedback and
> suggestions from the Mozilla community, users of the MPL (both
> community and corporate), and the broader open source legal community,
> MPL 2.0 contains several important changes from MPL 1.1. In
> particular, MPL 2.0:
>
> is simpler and shorter, using the past 10 years of in-practice
> application of the license to help better understand what is and isn't
> necessary in an open source license.
> is modernized for recent changes in copyright law, and incorporates
> feedback from lawyers outside the United States on issues of
> applicability in non-US jurisdictions.
> provides patent protections for contributors more in line with those
> of other open source licenses, and allows an entire community of
> contributors to protect any contributor if they are sued.
> provides compatibility with the Apache and GPL licenses, making code
> reuse and redistribution easier.
>
> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 12:57 AM, Jim Starkey <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 4/3/2014 5:16 AM, marius adrian popa wrote:
>>> I repost it here  from Firebird-general
>>>
>>> Just noticed Mozilla license v1.1
>>> http://opensource.org/licenses/MPL-1.1 was upgraded to v 2.0 maybe is
>>> time for firebird project to do so for all new code (This license has
>>> been superseded by the Mozilla Public License 2.0; please use the MPL
>>> 2.0 instead of 1.1.)
>>>
>>> http://www.mozilla.org/MPL/2.0/differences.html
>>> https://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/mpl-2.0-release
>>>
>>> The mpl 2.0 just needs a few changes as desribed in this paper
>>> (related to mpl1.1 vs idpl 1.0 changes)
>>>
>>> http://www.firebirdsql.org/file/documentation/papers_presentations/html/paper-fbent-manage.html#fb-management
>>> http://www.firebirdsql.org/en/initial-developer-s-public-license-version-1-0/
>>>
>>> It should be easy doable for new code
>>>
>>>
>> I've taken a quick first pass over the new Mozilla license and, frankly,
>> I don't understand it or how it is supposed to work with GPL.
>>
>> My understanding of the original problem is that both the original MPL
>> and GPL require that changes must be made available under the original
>> license.  The problem is that GPL insists that anything that has been
>> under GPL must continue to be under GPL, and that anything that contains
>> any GPL code is subject to GPL in its entirety.  This is what prevented
>> Linux from adopting Sun's XFS -- The Sun license requires that changes
>> to XFS be made available to users under the Sun license, but any changes
>> to XFS made for Linux would be automatically GPLed, making it impossible
>> to conform to the Sun license terms.  So last I heard, XFS was just
>> rotting away.
>>
>> The problem is with GPL, not the "secondary" licenses.  I don't
>> understand how the MPL can get around a problem intrinsic to GPL.
>>
>> Somebody probably understands this, but until the nuances of the new MPL
>> and its relationship to the GPL, I think caution is in order. There's no
>> rush.
>>
>> And from the very unpleasant brawl with Mozilla over the Firebird name,
>> I'm less inclined to trust them than I once was.
>>
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