> --- In firebird-support@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Steinmaurer<ts@...>  wrote:
>>
>>> --- In firebird-support@yahoogroups.com, Doug Chamberlin<chamberlin.doug@>  
>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 2/29/12 2:50 PM, todderamaa wrote:
>>>>> Maybe with the possibility of corruption, I should tell him to exclude
>>>>> the database files from backup entirely and only backup the gbk files
>>>>> that are created in the evening.
>>>> This is the usual way to backup Firebird databases in situations like
>>>> your clients have. Operating on the live database files is a quick way
>>>> to corrupted backup copies. If you have not experienced corruption
>>>> either you have been lucky or have not actually tried restoring from
>>>> many of those backup copies.
>>>>
>>>> The client network admins should be aware of this special case when
>>>> databases are being used. For this reason some database vendors have an
>>>> API that backup software can use to ensure the database activity does
>>>> not interfere with the backup operation. The vendors of backup systems
>>>> usually charge extra for these modules that handle various databases.
>>>> Firebird, however, does not have such an API.
>>>>
>>>> Steps for a safe, reliable Firebird backup:
>>>> 1) Run GBAK
>>>> 2) Copy the GBAK output to your backup media
>>>> 3) Periodically restore from the GBAK output to a test database to
>>>> ensure there are no errors.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I agree.
>>>
>>> But with this latest issue, we needed the database file and not the backup. 
>>>  The restore of the backup failed, because we had a stored procedure that 
>>> was selectable that didn't include a 'suspend' statement.  I think this 
>>> must be something that was allowed in Firebird 2.0 but not with 2.1.
>>
>> This is another reason to perform a backup/restore cycle when upgrading
>> to a newer server version. A sanity check and upgrading the ODS to
>> activate all good new stuff. ;-)
>>
>
> We had done backup/restore of this database many times since the upgrade.  It 
> seems the problem started when we 'altered' this stored procedure.  We had 
> been going through our procedures, removing any UDF function calls that could 
> be replace with internal function calls.  Seems the problem started occuring 
> after we altered the procedure on the client site.
>
> Does this make sense?

I think you get into your described situation, when you are using the 
stored procedure as a selectable SP ala:

SELECT * FROM YOURPROC


when the SP doesn't have a SUSPEND somewhere.

Regards,
Thomas

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