Thank you!  Thankfully I made the dialect 1 to 3 conversion years ago.

I will check these out.  It will be a bit before I can devote 100% on this.




 

> On Feb 13, 2019, at 1:03 PM, FSPAPA INCA Team i...@foodstuffs-si.co.nz 
> [firebird-support] <firebird-support@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Kevin – I’ve had good results using fbclone to migrate from InterBase 
> 7.5.1 to Firebird 3 using this method.  Migrating from 1.5 might not be too 
> dissimilar.
> 
> https://github.com/zedalaye/fbclone <https://github.com/zedalaye/fbclone>
>  
> 
> I made a couple of changes to support dialect 1 (we’re going to switch to 
> dialect 3 and remove legacy UDFs etc after our migration is complete) and 
> reverse migration.
> 
> https://github.com/stevedrake/fbclone <https://github.com/stevedrake/fbclone>
> https://github.com/stevedrake/uib <https://github.com/stevedrake/uib>
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: firebird-support@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:firebird-support@yahoogroups.com> <firebird-support@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:firebird-support@yahoogroups.com>> 
> Sent: Thursday, 14 February 2019 6:30 AM
> To: Firebird Support <firebird-support@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:firebird-support@yahoogroups.com>>
> Subject: Re: [firebird-support] Stored procedure stops functioning correctly 
> after restore under Firebird 3
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> Thanks Mark. I realize it’s a huge migration. I will be exhaustively testing 
> everything. I like the idea of creating an empty database and pumping the 
> data over. Is there a tool for this? (Actually just found one from Clever 
> Components)
> 
> I have looked at the migration docs for the 2.x versions and will do more..
> 
> Do you think it’s worth me going to 2.5 first or go directly to 3..0? Both 
> will be a ton of work so I’m thinking directly to 3.0.
> 
> Thanks again!
> Kevin
> 
> > On Feb 13, 2019, at 9:05 AM, Mark Rotteveel m...@lawinegevaar.nl 
> > <mailto:m...@lawinegevaar.nl> [firebird-support] 
> > <firebird-support@yahoogroups.com 
> > <mailto:firebird-support@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > On 13-2-2019 16:58, Kevin Stanton kevin.stan...@rdb-solutions.com 
> > <mailto:kevin.stan...@rdb-solutions.com> 
> > <mailto:kevin.stan...@rdb-solutions.com 
> > <mailto:kevin.stan...@rdb-solutions.com>> 
> > [firebird-support] wrote:
> > > I’m starting to look into migrating from 1.56 to either 2..5 or directly 
> > > to 3.0. I’ve bought the Migration Guide but haven’t read it yet.
> > > 
> > > It concerns me that I would/will have to recompile all SPs and triggers. 
> > > Is there an automated way to do this? I have 909 SPs and 785 triggers. 
> > > This will be one heck of a task with my installation base.
> > 
> > The choice is to either carefully and exhaustively verify if all your 
> > stored procedures and triggers continue to work correctly, and only 
> > recreate those that you know need it, or recreate the whole shebang (you 
> > will still need to carefully and exhaustively verify them).
> > 
> > Firebird itself has no way to recreate stored procedure and triggers 
> > automatically, although it is possible to craft scripts that rebuild it 
> > based on the database metadata (assuming the source blobs haven't been 
> > cleared). I would recommend against doing that automatically and instead 
> > you should use known good and verified scripts for the actual upgrade, 
> > if only to avoid running into issue with things that are now no longer 
> > syntactically valid or unquoted use of identifiers that are now reserved 
> > words.
> > 
> > Some people advocate that you shouldn't upgrade a database at all, but 
> > instead recreate it and pump the data over. In a situation with a lot of 
> > deployments that might also fix problems with diverging structure (but 
> > if that is the case, the migration path will be more prone to errors).
> > 
> > Especially when taking the big step from 1.5, it might make sense to 
> > take it as an opportunity to improve your database design, and get rid 
> > of things that are no longer needed (eg use built-in functions instead 
> > of UDFs, switch from dialect 1 to dialect 3 if you are still on dialect 
> > 1), etc. and then migrate the data from the old to the new.
> > 
> > Firebird 1.5 to 2.0 was already a big step with a lot of new features, 
> > but also some breaking changes, sometimes subtle, sometimes not. Don't 
> > expect going from 1.5 to be simply backing up and restoring, especially 
> > not with 909 stored procedures and 785 triggers, and more so if you use 
> > a lot of UDFs, or relied on some of the ambiguous behavior that is no 
> > longer valid, used unquoted identifiers that are now reserved words, etc.
> > 
> > And realize that Firebird 2.0 was released 12 years ago. A lot of 
> > migration knowledge from 1.5 to 2.0 may have been forgotten since (or at 
> > best not easily recalled). You should really carefully study the 2.0, 
> > 2.1, 2.5 and 3.0 release notes and the Firebird 2 installation and 
> > migration guide, and as you bought it, Carlos' Migration Guide to 
> > Firebird 3.
> > 
> > Mark
> > -- 
> > Mark Rotteveel
> > 
> > 
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