On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 13:02, Kirby<[email protected]> wrote: > My website has not been updated in AGES.
As an aside, you should consider adding a redirect from http://wallaceinfo.com/ to http://www.wallaceinfo.com/. > [...] from a purely business aspect, I really don't care > about support for FF. I spend my time doing other people's sites. > Most of them are not designed for firefox because outside the "geek > zone", no one uses it. That whole "nearly half" number being floated > around falls to pieces when you separate the wheat from the chaff: > take that same poll, exclusing hackers, hobbiests, enthusiasts and > linux zealots, and FF hardly makes a blip on the radar screen. Take > that same poll and include only Corporate and Industrial users, and > you find that Corporate America is decidedly IE and will be for a long > time. And that's where I work. Corporate Intranets. That means IE. Not according to this summary of the April 2009 Forrester report on Browser adoption: http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Web-Services-Web-20-and-SOA/Microsoft-IE-Tops-in-Enterprise-Firefox-and-Chrome-Gaining-Forrester-490377/ "Mozilla Firefox made gains, increasing its share from 16.9 percent in July to 18.2 percent in December. Google Chrome went from 1.6 percent in September, when it was released, to 2.0 percent by the end of the year. Apple Safari held relatively steady, both beginning and ending the six-month period with 1.4 percent market share, while Opera came in fifth with 0.2 percent of the market." (For $750 you can get the original Forrester report and draw your own conclusions: http://www.forrester.com/Research/Document/Excerpt/0,7211,47196,00.html ) I offer that, as another poster mentioned, you are better off writing to the standards, only accommodating specific browser quirks, as necessary, to satisfy your clients' needs. Even if your target market is predominantly IE, working from a standards base puts you in position to adapt quickly when your market changes (even if the change is only between IE versions.) > But one way or another, ROACH is exactly what 99 out of 100 people > are going think the instant they see your product. If you're OK with that, > then more power to ya. <sarcasm nature="gentle"> By all means, get back to us as soon as you've posted the results of the study that yielded these numbers </sarcasm> :-) But, seriously... is it more important what they recognize the icon as, upon first view, or the "value" they assign that image in association with the product? Firebug is a debugging tool. Discarding the capital built up by the rich history of bug imagery in the branding of debugging tools may be counterproductive in the ongoing (passive) marketing of Firebug. One might make the argument that, the uglier the bug, the better. "My debugger kills nastier bugs than yours. Look, it says so, right here, on the icon." > I'd wager that I've written more code and implemented more systems > than everyone else in this thread combined. And I am NOT kidding. ...and now we come to the real reason I joined this thread. I assume that if I, alone, meet or exceed the volume of your accomplishment, that is sufficient? I.e., there is no "negative" score to be applied from other participants? I'm -almost- arrogant enough to claim that I can "beat you" head to head, and give everyone else the day off. However, since I hate bad odds, I'll stick with the "everyone else [...] combined" terms, since I'm pretty sure jjb has even more uLOC[1] and implementations under his belt than I. So... what will the terms of this wager be? The stakes? How shall we judge the results? Are we looking at a LOC-based measure, or a "quality" rating metric (tricky!) If it's a LOC measure, is it "cumulative lines," or "final product" lines? Who will we accept as reasonable, competent, and minimally-biased arbiters? It will take me a while to track down all of my project artifacts for submission to the arbiters, as I suspect it will others, so we ought to allow for that when imposing any deadlines. I guess what I'm saying is... if you're going brag about your dick in a room full of male porn stars, you'd better be ready to whip it out and back it up. > Oh,... and have a nice day. ;-) Hey, you, too! --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Firebug" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/firebug?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
