The Safari debugger's overall UI wins hands down (but it's an Apple product, so it's not a fair fight :-) ). But its console isn't as functional in the way it displays objects (the in-console expanded object view is nice though). That's huge for me - I demand to see what's going on :-)
(Incidentally, I mentioned a bit ago that I had some ideas for plugins kicking around in my head, and that's one of them - ways to customize object display. I can't really promise that'll come to fruition, but I hope to squeeze in the time.) Anyhoo. Yes, JJB has been doing excellently at putting up with crap :-) Hell, the most these troll types seem to do is make him look good. Hey, waitaminute ... is he hiring trolls to post on his own forum?! Why, that sly little ... :-D - Luke On Jul 21, 3:22 pm, sir_brizz <[email protected]> wrote: > I think Luke said most of what I would care to say in response to > this. However, I thought two things were pretty important to bring up > here. > > 1) I realize that John and the others are volunteer developers on > Firebug and I think they do a fine job. John puts up with a lot of > crap on here, and I could hardly blame him if it ticked him off and he > made terse responses all the time, but he keeps cool-headed and tries > to give constructive responses anyway. I really respect that from him. > However, I think the fact that the Firebug developers are volunteers > just means they should lean on community feedback even more, > particularly when attempting to drastically overhaul core features. If > they don't want to do that, that's fine, but then they should expect > to deal with people who don't like the drastic overhaul and didn't > feel like they had any say whatsoever in what is, largely, a community > tool. > > 2) If I wanted to use a better "debugger", I'd switch to Safari. > WebKit at least has a sensible method of operation and the icons make > sense. I use Firebug because I prefer it over others, but that doesn't > mean that Firebug couldn't take a note from some of them. > > On Jul 21, 3:12 pm, ed <[email protected]> wrote: > > > You people are such a pack of crybaby whiners. > > > If you debug a lot, I'm quite sure you will learn your way around the > > new UI in half a day. If you keep clicking on the wrong button, and > > exit firebug instead of hiding it, then pay attention to what you're > > doing. Maybe you'll learn something. If you don't like the icons, who > > gives a fuck? It's an icon. I mean really, how important is it if the > > inspect icon is a flashlight or a speculum? Get over it. Quit wasting > > my time, and the time of the VOLUNTEERS who are creating this code for > > you by complaining about all the ways you have to start thinking > > because the tool changed a bit. Frankly, I've just about quit reading > > the firebug group because the signal to noise ratio has gone > > microscopic. Quit complaining and get back to work. > > > If you can't manage to deal with a few changes in your debugger, then > > I don't certainly don't want to be depending on any software you're > > writing. > > > If you don't like it, go use IE8. It has a debugger now. > > --ed --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Firebug" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/firebug?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
