pd, I know you are a strong supporter of the Firebug Working Group for a 
long time already, but ranting about Mozilla not caring about Firebug at 
all is just not true.

While the current performance problem has caused a big discussion between 
Mozilla members and Firebug users, we need to focus on fixing the problem. 
Also there is already a platform fix for it, so people should try it out, 
provide feedback on it and emphasize that the fix should be integrated into 
the next Firefox release.

Of course as a volunteer contributor for Firebug I'd have preferred if 
Mozilla made some other decisions in the past and provided more man power 
for programming on Firebug. Though this won't happen anymore.
So what everybody can do to help the Firebug Working Group is to spread the 
word and provide patches for features and bugs.

Sebastian

On Thursday, November 7, 2013 7:31:03 AM UTC+1, Meteor wrote:
>
> I am sorry that I hope we should join `Firebug` and `Firefox DevTools` 
> together to compete with `Chrome Developer Tools`. 
> Not separate our own contributor and volunteers.
> We are one Mozilla, and we should fight with Google or Microsoft. Not 
> fight with ourself.
>
> 在 2013年11月7日星期四UTC+8上午10时26分04秒,pd写道:
>>
>> Here in Australia, we've had a long weekend of sorts. I come back to work 
>> and there's email after email of drivel from Mozilla developers in this bug:
>>
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=815603
>>
>> The essence of the situation is that Mozilla developers (who are not 
>> necessarily active Firebug users) believe this:
>>
>> 1) Firebug users are so ignorant, they forget they have Firebug installed 
>> and/or active
>> 2) Firebug users complain to Mozilla before they discuss their issues in 
>> this group
>> 3) Firebug users complain to Mozilla that their browser performance is 
>> bad and that is generally caused by a forgotten Firebug install/activation
>> 4) Firebug users should be presented with extra user interface elements 
>> to ensure they are constantly aware that Firebug is running and *may be* 
>> causing overall JavaScript performance issues in Firefox
>> 5) Firebug should turn on the Console/Script panels by default because 
>> everyone who uses Firebug needs both these panels active
>> 6) The Firebug fix for the slow tab-switching problem should be reverted 
>> so that Firebug users will experience the long tab-switching lag again
>>
>> If you disagree with any one, or perhaps all, of these assumptions, 
>> please reply to this thread so that we have real user evidence to present 
>> to the Mozilla developers in order to debunk their false assumptions.
>>
>> It's time Firebug users fought back. Mozilla doesn't care about Firebug, 
>> it sees Firebug as just another add-on that, like all add-ons, are 
>> potential performance thorns in it's side. 
>>
>> Fight the power!
>>
>> pd
>>
>

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