Yes, it might have things that no one else has, but if I don't ever plan to 
use them like the Audio editor and almost all those "exclusive", then all 
that work means zero to me. 
Instead I need basic features and Firebug got them right in so many cases 
that the other tools usually just copied them. The only team that didn't 
look at Firebug was Firefox DevTools and so everything had to be redone 
again and then precious time is wasted because as we have been saying for 
years: we just want the Firebug features, there are lots of reports, 
listing of missing features, ... I don't feel the need to keep track of 
them.

On Friday, February 19, 2016 at 9:03:48 AM UTC+1, Sebastian Zartner wrote:
>
> I agree with you that Firebug 2 still has a better UI than the Firefox 
> DevTools, I'd even claim, better than any other browser devtools in some 
> ways. Many of those little UX features will get lost with Firebug 3 but 
> already have related bug reports and may be readded in future versions of 
> Firebug or the DevTools.
>
> Though, the Firefox DevTools have matured a lot the last years and are 
> offering features you don't get in any other tool like e.g. the filters 
> editor or the *Animations* side panel. And the DevTools team is listening 
> to users via channels like the Firefox Developer Tools ideas page 
> <https://ffdevtools.uservoice.com/forums/246087-firefox-developer-tools-ideas>
>  
> and other means to continuously improve their tools. So I strongly advocate 
> for trying them out a little more and raising things you think could be 
> improved.
>
> Sebastian
>
> On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 12:35:22 PM UTC+1, alfonsoml wrote:
>>
>> This lack of polish in DevTools is why so many of us didn't want to use 
>> them and kept using Firebug 2 as long as possible. 
>> Now the best way to debug is go ahead and switch to another browser 
>> (which I was already doing for certain tasks, but now Firefox doesn't have 
>> any advantage over other browsers).
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 10:46:00 AM UTC+1, Sebastian Zartner 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Another bug related to the DevTools (which Firebug 3 is based on). I've 
>>> already reported that about a year ago. See bug 1097516 
>>> <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1097516>.
>>> This is a really bad UX and I'd like that to be fixed. Though note, that 
>>> you can at least get the other values suggested by typing one or more 
>>> characters.
>>>
>>> Sebastian
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 5:56:15 PM UTC+1, alfonsoml wrote:
>>>>
>>>> pick a property with number of different values and when the 
>>>> autocomplete popup shows, use the keyboard arrows to navigate them, 
>>>> instead 
>>>> of cycling through all the possible valid values like Firebug 2, in 
>>>> Firebug 
>>>> 3 it jumps back to the start of the list
>>>> being able to quickly test different values was one of the advantages 
>>>> of Firebug. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

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