hi,
   this has got to be one of the most hilarious defenses i have 
seen to defend Nethacking it is insecure don't kiss the a$$ of a
sinking ship just because you want to be on:-} the fw any fw is 
there for a reason and any app that can not have its streams controled
in any reasonable way may as well push the fw out with yesturdays 
lunch. i would venture since more than security type read these 
threads that ford is going to have some fun over time. ever heard
of corporate espionage.. and so on and so on. but by all means 
that just allows for the real products to look so much better
when the press has its field day with netmeeting and the ford
car company or whatever. we live in amusing times. bennett
let me know what you think of Elink. now that is cool and real
thoughtful technology that is truly state of the art rather than
fast follower b$ IFYNWIM
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