Nope... I'd say you're right. Specially if you have a proxy that requests the 
user to type in his password (when authentication is not done with the current 
usercontext).

This is probably also the case when you're trying to get something up and no 
appropriate Proxies exist. It's often put in as an argument that Stateful 
Inspection is faster, more flexible but under circumstances a bit less secure. 
I'm also one of those that CLAIM this to be true  ;-)

Administration on proxy-like gateways might require under circumstances more 
administrative effort to create users - however this can also be true for the 
rulesets of SI type of firewalls. It's really diffrent for every FW.

Cheers

Boris Pavalec [QPB]
Network / System Engineer [MCSE]
Highend Computing Systems
Switzerland - Zuerich

http://www.nt-admin.net
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-----Original Message-----
From: sylvain.gitta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Donnerstag, 20. Mai 1999 16:51
Cc: sylvain.gitta; firewalls
Subject: UNAUTHENTICATED: Re: Application gateway Vs Stateful Inspection


Hi

What about backdoor issues?
>From what I understand, with packet filters, stateful or not, a trojan
horse could open a connection to the outside world on a given port
(if it's permitted of course), and establish contact with the cracker's
system.

That would be less easy to do with application gateways, for which
specific processes should be implemented.

Am I wrong?

Sylvain

Peter wrote:
> 
> Does anyone tell me the difference especially in performance &
> administration between Application gateway type (e.g. Gauntlet) & Stateful
> Inspection type (e.g. Firewall-1) ?
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> Peter Fung
> 
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