Hi Neil,

On 23 Jun 99, at 17:01, Neil Lehrer wrote:

> 
> 
> hi,
> 
> i would like to hear from people with real world experiences on the
> lucent manaaged firewall and/or the nokia ip security router/firewall.

We use the Lucent Managed Firewall 3.0i and also have some customers 
using it.
It�s a very tight and clever piece of "network security appliance". Up to 
now, we haven�t discovered any flaws or bugs with the Brick device 
itself. Also the Software, the SMS, is working very well. With stress 
tests, we measured 45Mbps throughput on our Brick, not bad for dynamic 
stateful inspection.

NAT and VPN is also included.

What we are missing: strong encryption outside U.S. ;-), more debug tools 
for power users on the Brick itself (which may break security, I know ;-).

What I really like is the concept of "Security Zones", so you no longer 
think solely in "Interfaces". Zones may be deployed to several interfaces 
(the Brick has 4x 100BT), and more than one zone may be put on one 
interface. Also, you may deploy your security zones over more than one 
Brick. And, each zone can have his own security administrator, with only 
admin rights for his zone, without compromising other zones.
What I also like is the Brick itself, based on the operating system 
"Inferno". It�s small and cute, and you don�t need a power OS like 
Solaris, NT or else just for the network appliance.
Also the Brick is a bridge-level device (but not like "Galloping Gertie" 
;-)...
Up to now, we couldn�t break it. Of course, your overall security is that 
of every Firewall implementation with "Dynamic Stateful 
Inspection"...with wrong security policies or misconfigured filtering 
rules, you are vulnerable. But this is not the products fault, but that 
of the Gatekeeper (that�s how I call the security admin ;-)

The Nokia product may have comparable features, because it�s based on a 
light OS. The software is Checkpoint FW-1. I personally don�t like it, 
but accept its market share.

Generally spoken: I prefer dedicated network security appliances with a 
small, lean, and secure OS, and with separated auditing and 
administration servers...




Kind Regards / Mit freundlichen Gruessen,

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