The "probably" is based on what (besides, of course, the talkative nature
that has been evidenced or the massive amounts of incriminating physical
evidence that someone so incompetent as to have cops show up at the door or
take seriously the writings of someone incompetent enough to get himself
incarcerated?
Sounds more like the writer was hoping others funble as badly as he did...
-----Original Message-----
From: Carric Dooley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 1999 11:49 AM
To: Meritt, Jim
Cc: 'Derek Martin'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Kevin fits the mold (was RE: trial & charges
Well, it actually coaches you to take the guilty plea since according to
this paper, you are probably going to be convicted if you go to trial.
Carric Dooley
COM2:Interactive Media
http://www.com2usa.com
On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Meritt, Jim wrote:
> Oh, I don't doubt in the slightest that many have gone to jail. I just
> doubt that many have gone to TRIAL. Please note that the results of a
> guilty plea are that you go to jail and that may be in a plea bargain.
>
> I hope that your basic tutorial notes that. Otherwise it is sorely amiss.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carric Dooley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 3:03 PM
> To: Meritt, Jim
> Cc: 'Derek Martin'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: Re: Kevin fits the mold (was RE: trial & charges
>
>
> I have read papers by two hackers that have been to jail. One was Agent
> Steal, and I have the other paper in some obscure corner on one of myh
> PC's. He got over 4 years. I'd be happy to send the paper to anyone that
> is interested. IT is a basic tutorial on what to do if you get busted.
> =)
>
> Carric Dooley
> COM2:Interactive Media
> http://www.com2usa.com
>
> On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Meritt, Jim wrote:
>
> > Bet he already knows...
> >
> > Full article at
> > http://www.thestandard.net/articles/display/0,1449,3907,00.html
> >
> > Feds on Reported Mitnick
> > Deal: No Comment
> >
> > By Elinor Mills
> >
> > An assistant U.S. attorney refused to
> > comment Friday on reports that Kevin
> > Mitnick has agreed to plead guilty to
> > computer hacking charges as part of a plea
> > bargain.
> >
> > The prosecutor, David Schindler, confirmed
> > that Mitnick's attorney filed a document
> > under seal this week but wouldn't comment
> > on its contents. Schindler said no court
> > hearing had been scheduled "as of now."
> >
> > An Associated Press report said Mitnick's
> > attorney, Donald Randolph, confirmed the
> > plea bargain. Randolph did not return calls
> > to his office Thursday and Friday."
> >
> > Like I said, plea bargain, no trial. And since HE said he did something
> > wrong...
> > I do agree on the unfair treatment, but that was neither the question
nor
> > the issue at hand.
> >
> > I can only think of ONE "hacker" that went to trial, and he was
convicted
> by
> > a jury.
> >
> > Jim Meritt, CISSP
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Derek Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 9:05 AM
> > To: Meritt, Jim
> > Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: Re: trial & charges
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Meritt, Jim wrote:
> >
> > > How many have actually made it to trial? What were the charges? I
> > > understand that in almost every case it is hard to "shut up" the
> > > braggard^h^h^h^H^h^h^h^h hacker and a plea bargain is made resulting
in
> NO
> > > trial.
> >
> > Tell that to kevin Mitnick. I'm not saying he didn't do anything wrong,
> > but depending on who you believe the charges may have been largely
trumped
> > up and he certainly has been treated unfairly, whatever the case.
> >
> >
> > Derek D. Martin | UNIX System Administrator
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