Well I see your choices as being one of 2.

1.  Use a Layer 2 switch to create the separate VLANs and have a multiple
interface(one address for each vendor) on a tagged port that is part of each
VLAN.  

2.  Get a Layer 3 switch and have each vendor go into it's own router port
on the Layer 3 switch and create filters to allow only the traffic you want
to go through.

Option 1 is cheaper but Option 2 is a little more secure, IMO.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Ivan Fox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 10:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: VLAN - a semi-firewall related question


1) Each vendor comes in as an extension of their "internal" network.
2) Some use FTP, some use TELENT, some use RLOGIN, some has combination of
these.


----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 9:01 AM
Subject: RE: VLAN - a semi-firewall related question


> I have a couple of questions that would help in answering your question.
>
> 1.  Do you get to assign all of the vendors IP addresses?
> 2.  Do the vendors need to get to the same services on your network or
> different services?
>
> Without knowing the answer to these questions I would say that a small
Layer
> 3 switch might be usefull for you.  Foundry sells a 24 port Layer 3 switch
> that might be what you need.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ivan Fox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 5:26 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: VLAN - a semi-firewall related question
>
>
> It is a semi-Firewall related question.
>
> A firewall for the Extranet allows, say 10 vendors, contractors, to
connect
> to it.  There are two options that we can think of:
>
> Option 1:
> Have 10 NICs in the firewall.  This option is clumsy, but it is secure in
> the sense that competitive suppliers cannot sniff each other's data.
>
> Option 2:
> A smarter approach, one says.  Have an intelligent switch connecting to a
> NIC in the firewall.  Each port of the switch is isolated, a VLAN
approach.
> Competitive suppliers cannot "peer" into each other's data.
>
> Being a non-router/switch guy.  How can I configure and secure the switch?
> I have also heard a router guru mentioned  that, in order to provide
> security, we should not use intelligent switch as someone connect to the
> console of a switch, he/she can sniff the packets.
>
> Any pointers are appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> C.K.
>
>
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