Dean
while the posters may have been rather impolite - you assume that they are
*native* English speakers

 you not have noticed - but the Internet is getting less & less US-centric
which as a corrolary means that a large percentage of user/admins/whatever
are NOT english speakers

I suggest you read <http://www.first.org/docs/international_comms.html>
then read your flame below & apply it to yourself
 before you start a flame-war about English grammar 


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On Mon, 8 Nov 1999, Grimes, Dean wrote:

> To Hill and Pajak:
> 
> Have either one of you ever passed a basic English grammar and spelling
> test? Neither one of you have ever made mistakes ... ever? Reading through
> your posts revealed to me that neither one of you have yet mastered even the
> most basic concepts of sentence structure and use of the English language.
> Since this forum is communicated in written form, it makes sense that one
> develop a command of the written word.
> 
> Hill, if you are at least a little bit intelligent, why don't you learn how
> to spell intelligent before using it in a sentence. While you're at it,
> learn to spell loser, because as a participant in the human race you will
> need to refer to this word frequently.
> 
> Pajak, what is "you see, some of us are just not politically correct and we
> don't really 
> care to be ones."? I guess you are correct, there just isn't a nice way to
> tell someone that they are a stupid idiot!
> 
> Now didn't that diatribe help to encourage you to become more educated in
> the use of the English language? Or does it just piss you off? I hope
> neither one of have any children. You see, both of you missed an opportunity
> to help and encourage someone. Instead you allowed pride and selfishness to
> prevail in your lives. Maybe you do work well with machines, but there is no
> substitute for friends, family and respect. Try next time to be real leaders
> and help those in need. Just maybe, someday, you too will require a helping
> hand or even just a kind word of encouragement.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hill, Alan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 5:45 PM
> To: 'Susan Kerschbaumer'; peter pajak
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: *This is a rant* RE: unsubscribing ? hate this industry.
> special ly to Susan
> 
> 
> You said...
>  It's people like you that make me hate this industry. We are not machines.
>  We are not computers. We are human beings. We make mistakes. We are
> imperfect.
>  Be nice. There is a nice way to say what you want to say.
>  I wouldn't have said anything, but I thought I should make you aware of
> how you come off to those of us who are on this list who are not arrogant
> and inconsiderate. Maybe you can learn something.
> 
> I reply..
> 1) The information is at the tail of every message he got.
> 2) he chose to subscribe
> 3) when he chose, the info was there
> 4) this sort of responce in normal in a very highly technical group
> 5) the person this was aimed at used a professional title, (and is expected
> to be able to read)
> 6) this sort of 'unfriendlyness' is normal to ANY outsider in ANY industry.
> (try asking questions to a med)
> 7) If you don't love the tech., live breath and eat the tech., you are in
> the wrong business, go into sales.
> 8) DON'T SPAM THE CHANNEL WITH NON-Firewall CHATTER!!
> 9) If you are in FIREWALL, you are not a human being, you are on call 7x24,
> you eat SPAM and PING storms, you live to kill the damn packet storms, and
> you know that everyone in your office just wants to download .megs
> 
> I went to school to study 'this industry', so I would know what I was doing.
> I've been working in 'this industry' since 1980, and I still love every
> minute that I am away from the lusers, and inside of the machine.  To keep
> up to date, I have to keep up my studies.  This is one place that I can know
> what is the lastest features/bugs. I don't feel like wading through FLUFF.
> (I did that in my BBS days, and when I tried m$ manuals)
> 
> Again, if you are at least a little intellegent, most of the best in 'this
> industry' will give you the code off their PALMS, just don't ask them to
> comment it for you.  That is an exercise for the pupil.  But don't ask them
> to be friendly, they are giving you what they can afford, knowledge.  Go ask
> a salesman for a pretty pile of words.
> 
> 
> of course, Richard Drennan should have sent his message in private, but it
> was rather amusing.
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