Aber... gibt es kein listen auf Deutsch?  Egalement... des listes en
francais? po Russki? nihon go?

I would relish the opportunity to work where I could pursue my French,
German, Russian, Japanese, Norwegian and Gaelic while doing network
security.. but alas.. there has to be some common means of communication,
no?  Grammatical errors don't bother me.. I think you have to BE the odd
one out, illiterate or unable to express yourself the way you wish before
you learn true tolerance of other cultures...

One point I would like to make however is that he was criticizing their
English to make a point... it was not arrogance, but an illustration of
the destructiveness and pointlessness of the ensuing argument.  We are
here to help each other.  That is and should always be the spirit of the
list, and 99% of the time I believe it is.

Can we all kiss and make up now?  =)


Carric Dooley CNE
COM2:Interactive Media
http://www.com2usa.com

"Luck is the residue of design." 
- Branch Rickey - former owner of the Brooklyn Dodger Baseball Team 

On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, eric bucher wrote:

> Most Americans would be right. English IS the language of the world.
> Ironically, it was American arrogance that forced other nations to adopt
> English as the language of international business. Why should Americans
> apologize for being successful? If you saw something working right, you
> would copy it, and integrate it into whatever context that thing belonged.
> No one is forced to do business with Americans. They do so because they
> choose to do so. So, if an American company makes a product, and there
> exist lists of people exchanging ideas concerning that product, wouldn't
> it make sense that the list would be written in English? 
> 
> At the turn of the century, all of the best science was being done in a
> small country called Germany. To be a good scientist, one had to be able
> to read and write German. The international language of diplomacy used to
> be French. When a group of people start doing something good and useful,
> others want to learn and copy and understand and take part in those
> endeavors. America is very good at business and others want to learn from
> our advances. So, what's wrong with them also learning our language? By
> the way, if everyone spoke the same language, it would be one less
> difference to focus on and one less reason to engage in conflict.
> 
> 
> -eric
> 
> On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, Lee, Dana-Renee wrote:
> 
> !I agree with Rafi and too suggest Dean raise his head out of the fog and
> !take a good look around.  Most Americans would like to believe English is
> !the language of the world but, it is only one of several used and in common
> !usage around the world.  Dean, would you have preferred they send a message
> !in French or German, these too are used commonly around the world just as
> !much as English.  By the way, it is attitudes like yours that have gotten
> !Americans the title of "The Ugly American".  Patents with others is a virtue
> !and is looked apron as a positive trait in a person.
> !
> !Yours Truly,
> !Renee Lee
> 
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