On Thu, 23 Dec 1999, Paul B. Brown wrote:

> Are you saying that if it does not harm or even profit the actor in any
> way other than simple knowledge that it's a Class B Misdemeanor?  Can you

Why not?  Going 1MPH over the speed limit doesn't harm or profit anyone, 
but is still against the law.
 
There's a possibility that knowing what ports are open does profit the 
actor if they're looking for a specific vulnerability.

> say clueless lawmakers?  How can there be penalty if no harm is done,

Pretty easily.  Copyright law can be like this also. 

> services rendered in accessible or even slowed, no knowledge is gained
> other than what ports are open, etc?  I don't understand the intent of
> this law.

The law isn't made to address port scanning, it's made to address access, 
unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on which way you lean) it does 
so in too broad a way.  Like the Oregon statute that Randall Schwartz was 
pers^Wprosecuted under where in court both he and Intel (the "victim") held 
that he hadn't intended any harm or malice.

> How does one determine $ loss?  This can be arbitrary.  I think there are

One documents the time and efforts spent on whatever one attributes to 
the event.

> some lawmakers that need to think again about this law and it's intended
> application otherwise they might find someone can have it struck down as
> unconstitutional.

Which part of the constitution were you thinking of?  There are a lot of 
stupid laws which appear to be constitutional.

Paul
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