I totally agree,
BUT!@#, I would really like to know what software you are running that tells you that
you are beeing scanned and exactly what torjan they are trying to find... =)
Peter.
On Fri, 18 February 2000, "Floyd Moore" wrote:
>
> It gives me great pleasure to report an "individual" who is scanning
> for a Trojan. Even more to have their time wasted trying to penetrate.
> It must be frustrating for them. Then even more to find they have
> been contacted.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael E. Cummins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Firewalls Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 6:52 PM
> Subject: RE: Spock: We are being Scanned Captain:-))
>
>
> > door is say unlocked and the passer by sees that.. IMHO the
> punishable
> > per se crime does not occur until the said individual actually opens
> the
> > door physically/virtually and jumps into the vehicle 'without keys
> and
> > authorization' naturally. then the meter starts running and the
> > infringements
> > begin to occur..
>
> First off, I am not the law and I am not punishing anyone. When I see
> someone advancing in a threatening manner I take measures to obfuscate
> myself and report the matter to the appropriate authorities minus the
> overboard "Chicken Little" panic.
>
> Secondly, if someone is walking up and down the beach eying everyone's
> car
> door locks, I would rather have my eye on *them*
>
> Thirdly, if you *must* explain everything with analogies... Viewing
> the car
> lock is a passive act. Scanning my ports is an active act, and a
> malicious
> one at that if it is obvious to me that you are looking for machines
> that
> are infected with Trojans. I think that Frederick is dead on with
> *his*
> analogy about jiggling the doorknobs. If someone jiggles *my*
> doorknobs, I
> want to have security cameras on the building 24/7 and a Billy Jo-Bob
> Redneck running around the premises with a shotgun!
>
> It all boils down to, methinks, a difference of opinion between
> corrective
> and preventive security measures. It seems to me that you recommend
> being
> violated before taking action, that you view reacting to port scans as
> an
> infringement on basic community rights and freedoms. I recommend a
> standoffish but very-aware attitude unless the intruder is obviously
> looking
> for something nefarious, as was my case. (A pretty poor attempt if
> the
> words "NetBus-Pro and Backdoor-G1" actually show up in my logs) Any
> attempt
> to profile my system will result in a short letter to the offender's
> ISP, if
> it can be identified. This will at least contribute to weeding out
> the
> moronic script kiddies. If the intruder is spoofing his probe to
> begin
> with, you've got more worries anyway. In *that* case I suppose the
> best
> offense is a good defense.
>
> Is this true, or do you wish to further clarify your point?
>
> Please post to the group, this is fascinating stuff.
>
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