readings good, when was the last time you actually installed openbsd
though?

Thanks,

Ron DuFresne

On Sun, 23 Apr 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> You know, I just went through this with another person on the list.  Here 
> we go, ipfilter gives some security, but there are soem necessary steps 
> one must take to harden OpenBSD, that is not on by default.
> 
> Please read Chapter 4,5,6 of Building Internet Firewalls, and refer to the 
> "Ultimate Firewall" by Marcus Ranum  :)
> 
> /m
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Aaron C. Springer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 04/23/00 02:51 PM
> 
>  
>         To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>         cc:     [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jochen Kaiser 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
> firewall list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ron DuFresne 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>         Subject:        Re: Which would you choose? -reply
> 
> 
> Oh really?  When is the last time you looked?
> 
> Turn on ipfilter and what else?
> 
> What is more secure out of the box?
> 
> acs
> 
> 
> 
> On 23-Apr-00 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Sorry OpenBSD is not secure by default, look again.. :(
> >
> > /m
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Aaron C. Springer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 04/22/00 07:50 AM
> >
> >
> >         To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >         cc:     [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
> Jochen
> > Kaiser
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> > firewall list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ron DuFresne
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >         Subject:        Re: Which would you choose? -reply
> >
> >
> > That is almost not needed if you choose OpenBSD... secure by default..
> >
> > and soon maybe FreeBSD too...
> >
> >
> > acs
> >
> > On 22-Apr-00 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> Each operating system can be a serious risk if one decides to use it as
> > a
> >> perimeter device.  There is always something new to tune, harden,
> > disable,
> >> enhance on any given operating system.  Prior to installing a security
> >> application on top of the residing operating system.  Ask someone else
> >> within your group to cross-check your work..
> >>
> >> Disable everything, then only turn on what you may need.. :)
> >>
> >> /m
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Ron DuFresne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> 04/22/00 11:00 AM
> >>
> >>
> >>         To:     Jochen Kaiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>         cc:     [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> > firewall
> >> list
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>         Subject:        Re: Which would you choose?
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, 22 Apr 2000, Jochen Kaiser wrote:
> >>
> >>> oh my god. this will become a monsterthread :)
> >>
> >> that it will...
> >>
> >>         [SNIP]
> >>
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> > Is Linux and ipchains/squid/TIS FWTK/etc a security risk?
> >>>
> >>> A linux out of the box always is. If you spend time and patch and 
> check
> >>> configurations and use it as a standalone computer for firewalling and
> >>> squid with no other user shell access, it may be usable.
> >>>
> >>
> >> As is solars, sgi, hp, you name em, all but perhaps openbsd and even a
> > few
> >> particular distributions of linux designed to be secure 'out of the
> > box'.
> >>
> >> The key point here is knowing yer OS and knowing in particular -=how to
> >> lock it down=-  It's been said here many times over, if you know an OS
> >> better then others, use that, even if yer talking linux, which can be
> > well
> >> suited to certain situations.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Ron DuFresne
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> "Cutting the space budget really restores my faith in humanity.  It
> >> eliminates dreams, goals, and ideals and lets us get straight to the
> >> business of hate, debauchery, and self-annihilation." -- Johnny Hart
> >>         ***testing, only testing, and damn good at it too!***
> >>
> >> OK, so you're a Ph.D.  Just don't touch anything.
> >>
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