A true firewall is available from www.tinysoftware.com it's called tiny
firewall, and has configurable rules/filtering, port blocking, and loggin.
It's only $29.95. Macafee personal firewall formerly conseal private desktop
is only $39.95 and is also much better and a true firewall. Zonealarm is
much better than blackice and it's free.

So as for getting what you pay for, I disagree. Clearly, better products are
available for the same price point or free in the case of zonealarm.

Jamy

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You can block specific ports with Defender.  As for being a true firewall,
no it isn't.  But, for the money you get what you pay for.

eric.

On Fri, 02 June 2000, Jamy Klein wrote:

> 
> 
> Balck Ice defender is not a true firewall.. It's basically intrusion
> detection.  
> You can't set access rules, or block specific ports with defender, all the
> other products listed are true port blockers at the least. In the case of
> Conseal firewall and winroute tey are even packet filters. Network ice's
> site even states that it is intrusin detection and not a true firewall.
> 
> Jamy
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> BlackICE Defender is a much more evolved product, than most of them, plus 
> their documentation even with errors is far superior over the other 
> products.
> 
> The Radio Ads for MacAfee Personal Firewall sounds kindy of cheesy 
> though..
> 
> You really want something that is simple enough for my cat to install
> 
> /m
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> If anyone is interested, here is a summary of the responses I received 
> after
> requesting suggestions for Personal Firewalls:
> 
> ZoneAlarm (3 recommendations)   http://www.zonelabs.com/
> McAfee Personal Firewall (Formerly "ConSeal Private Desktop") (3
> recommendations)   http://www.mcafee.com/
> BlackICE Defender (2 recommendations)   http://www.networkice.com/
> WinRoute (1 recommendation)   http://www.tinysoftware.com/
> CyberwallPLUS (1 recommendation)   http://www.network-1.com/
> GNAT Box (1 recommendation)   http://www.gnatbox.com/
> ConSeal PC Firewall (1 recommendation)   http://www.consealfirewall.com/
> 
> For the record, I was also pointed to Gibson Research
> (http://grc.com/default.htm) which has an online tool for testing how
secure
> your connection is, and describes a method for adding firewall-like 
> protection
> to a Windows computer without actually installing a firewall; and I was 
> reminded
> that VPNs and "insecure nodes" are a dangerous combination -- with or 
> without
> firewalls.
> 
> Thanks again to everyone that responded!
> 
> Brant
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