On Mon, 5 Jun 2000, mouss wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
> > ok firstly kill off sendmail and replace it with qmail (www.qmail.org)
> 
> "just say no". while I am not a fan of sendmail, while qmail is
> certainly a good MTA, there is no complete and rigourous proof that
> would make it necessary for everybody to just replace sendmail with
> qmail.

Historical defects would be proof, not sure how rigorous you need, but
it's a no-brainer in my opinion.  Sendmail's design and history carry a
lot of baggage that doesn't have a good place in a security solution.

> Sendmail is still widely used, and not only by stupid people.

The Baywatch argument doesn't hold water in security.

> Also, the FWTK's smap and smapd have been and are still used with
> sendmail, even on the Gauntlet, and nobody seems to say that this
> is stupid.

It's stupid.  I've *never* relied on the smap/sendmail combination, even
on Gauntlet.  Anyone with a good clue who was still using smap when
anti-relay code became necessary probably switched to somethign else then.
People who were stuck not modifying installs probably stuck a different
MTA on the outside as the primary MX.

I prefer Postfix to qmail, but both are easily better soltuions to
mail gatewaying that sendmail.  Exim would probably be my third choice.  
If you need a specific feature of sendmail, then by all means use it, but
if you don't, a smaller more modular MTA is preferable, most especially on
a firewall.

Paul
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