Thank you Mark!
Thank you Marcus!
There may be quite a few people in this group who have thrown away their
rose colored glasses. In fact the dumpster may be overflowing. (I hope so)
We need more people who will simply tell it like it is. In the meantime we
all slouch towards the future & continue the quest for NPS (Nearly Perfect
Security) with emphasis on Nearly. :>)
"Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes." -Oscar Wilde
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*To: Larry Paul
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*http://pubweb.nfr.net/~mjr/pubs/a1fwall/
*http://pubweb.nfr.net/~mjr/pubs/fwtest/index.htm
*http://www.networkice.com/html/firewalls.html
*http://www.networkice.com/Docs/Firewalls%20Need%20IDS1.0.pdf
*http://pubweb.nfr.net/~mjr/usenix/ranum_elx_cocktail.pdf
*http://www.networkice.com/html/networkice_guide.html
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*At 02:03 PM 12/1/00 -0600, Larry Paul wrote:
*>Your point is well taken and is the reason that I am bothered by
*some of the
*>security sites' marketing. It seems they are telling the great unwashed
*>that they are "as safe as a bug in a rug". This simply is NOT true.
*>Instances of this are why some people think that a lot of security people
*>are unprincipled (greedy?) and hence the appropriated Al Capp
*quote a while
*>back. This does not fall under the category of "scam" (any more than most
*>marketing) but it does speak to the issue of higher authority. Similar to
*>the abuse of power by police authority or governments. IOW They have a
*>HIGHER obligation to protect. The Internet has literally hundreds
*of sights
*>devoted to frauds & scams, but I submit not ONE of them is watching for
*>security fraud. Other than occasionally in this group (and perhaps a few
*>others) NOBODY is watching the watchers.
*>
*>"Government is not reason. Government is not eloquence. It is force. And,
*>like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." - George
*>Washington
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