> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michelle Marcicki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, 8 December 2000 12:05 
> To: firewalls_list
> Cc: Paul D. Robertson
> Subject: Mid-range Firewalls? (And books :)
> 
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> I'm wondering what FW products are out there that fall into the 
> "mid-sized" business range??  By mid-sized I mean, not 
> SOHO/personal and 
> not huge enterprise, gov't, etc.  
> 
> There seems to be a real lack in the "in-the-middle" range?!  
> Say you have a business that needs a firewall and it falls 
> into the 10-100 
> (or even <200) users range, it seems that they are out of luck. 
> B/c they likely can't afford was seems to be a minimum $4000 
> touch for the 
> low end big boys and a $29.95 SOHO/personal FW isn't going to 
> meet their 
> needs by a long shot?
> 
> So.. input, suggestions, reviews, links etc are welcome.

The one good thing I found about dealing with smaller businesses is that
their needs also tend to be fairly simple. If they're not hosting internal
WWW / DNS / Mail etc then you can do things cheaply and effectively by just
using decent filtering and NAT on the edge router. Cisco reflexive ACLs or
IOS/FW provide "good enough" security for low-threat networks.

If they're a little more paranoid a custom-rolled IPFilter box behind the
router is not very expensive. Although enterprises tend to worry about the
supportability issues, many small businesses will be happy enough to have a
supplier with whom they have a relationship to look after such a box. That's
assuming that they don't have anyone in-house (and getting up towards the
100-user level they often do).

Personally, I'd rather use the tools I trust for paranoid networks in a
lower security posture than branch out to tools I don't know at all. Back
this up with a risk assessment and there's no need to start dredging the
bottom for all the products that never made prime time. Failing to be
popular / well examined is no guarantee that the product sucks - but the
time for a clueful person to examine it will often cost more than a
well-known solution.

Oh - and on a product note, there's a new cheap PIX out (but I have no idea
about $USD pricing).

> 
> TIA.
> 
> On another quick note.. I noticed that you had (??) a book 
> out Paul (as in 
> Paul Robertson), if it is the same person??

Paul? Is this true? I wanna see this book!

"Firewalls" By Paul Robertson
(or Protocol Designers I Have Eaten...
(or Here Comes The Clue Stick...
(or 80 - The Port Of Doom)

;)

> Michelle Marcicki
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Technology Solutions (TSI) Inc.
> 
> (Dolphin)
> http://www.members.home.net/jazzdolphin/
> (And TSI's website is under development!)

Cheers,

--
Ben "Aquaboy" Nagy
Marconi Services
Network Integration Specialist
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