Agreed on the Orlando conference. I didn't take a track but chose
cafeteria style - and still ended up with some losers. Northcutt's IDS -
great. Chris Brenton and Lance's firewall classes were good too. Other
classes were so-so, and a few I walked out on. Plus, the coffee in the
hotel sucked.
--- Gavin
-----Original Message-----
From: David Lang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 12:26
To: Paul D. Robertson
Cc: Jeff Deitz; Kathy; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: SANS hype and auto-fix virus
I went to the one in florida at the beginning of the year and was very
unimpressed with it compared to the various usenix confrences. It costs
quite a bit more, and the classes seemed much to basic (the final straw
was the class showing what tools script kiddies have and how they work
that spent 15 min on winnuke, 5+ on showing the different GUIs that it
has
sported, why in the world would any security person care what the GUI
looks like, let alone the 5-10 different version of the GUI it has had)
I did luck out and found a couple classes that were worthwhile. If you
get
the advanced classes they can be useful, but if you make the mistake of
taking an entire track or one of the lower classes you should save your
money.
David Lang
On
Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Paul D. Robertson wrote:
> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 09:59:48 -0500 (EST)
> From: Paul D. Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Jeff Deitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Kathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: SANS hype and auto-fix virus
>
> On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Jeff Deitz wrote:
>
> > Just my experience with SANS. I did attend one SANS conference a
couple of
> > years back on intrusion detection and thought that it was great, but
it now
> > seems they are now trying to teach more of the basics, geared
towards their
> > certification program, then advance or in-depth knowledge on the
subjects.
>
> It's been a couple of years since I went to one also, so it may be
that
> it's changed for the worst. Some people I know went to the last one
in DC
> and found it to be very good though. AFAIK all they picked was the
> advanced stuff.
>
> Paul
>
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