I think Lucent has a software, called IPSec Client for VPN + personal 
firewall as a part of their VPN Firewall solution, it does not appear 
to be expensive. I have not tested it.

Santiago Zapata

>We have wrestled with this problem also.
>
>We have deployed black ice and I find it of no use.
>
>We also use the linksys $100 thing and it is not very
>useful either (although you can get ipsec client
>tunnels out).
>
>What we have found works the best is netscreen 5 and
>either nortel ipsec or infoexpress.  There are issues
>with the netscreen and nortel ipsec client but it can
>work with the correct config.
>
>I have settled on using a netscreen 5 for packet
>filtering and the infoexpress proprietary tunnel that
>works fine through nat devices including many proxies.
>
>The netscreen is good enough that my OpenBSD 2.8
>ipfilter/ipnat machine is reserved as a secondary
>packet filter.
>
>
>
>
>--- It's The Zoooomer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  Well if you're talking about allowing the company
>>  employees (who have DSL at their houses) to be able
>>  to
>>  come into the company. We're wrestling with this
>>  right
>>  now. We're looking at personal fw's tht we can
>>  configure and protect them at their house and also
>>  have them up to make a secure connection into the
>>  company. some of the cast of characters include
>>  F-Secure, zonealarm, Blackice etc. Anyone had any
>>  success in these areas...?
>>
>>                                   Robert
>>
>>
>>  --- "Andrew J. Caird" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  > On: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:13:41 EDT
>>  > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>  >
>>  > >We do use FW-1, however, do you know if after a
>>  > client's policy is updated
>>  > >(upon logon) does that user then have the ability
>>  > to alter that policy
>>  > >until the next time he/she logs on?  My
>>  > understanding is that you can
>>  > >prevent this with ZoneAlert Plus through the use
>>  of
>>  > authentication
>>  > >requirements and a centralized password database
>>  > that exists on a file
>>  > >server.  Thoughts?
>>  >
>>  >   well, access to the keyboard means all bets are
>>  > off, but i believe
>>  >   that with a reasonably configured client the
>>  > policy is essentially
>>  >   unchangable by the average end user(*).  again,
>>  > though, i've never
>>  >   used this software, so i'm going on the
>>  marketing
>>  > literature i've read. :)
>>  >
>>  >   perhaps someone else on this list can share some
>>  > real-life
>>  >   experiences?
>>  >
>>  > --andy
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > (*) average end user == a user who can't figure
>>  out
>>  > how to circumvent
>>  >                         the SecureClient policy.
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