Chris,

That is a fair point that you make about the PIX doing a "curiosity check" on the 
first packet. The point is it actually does that check, as opposed to dumbly passing 
every packet that hits it on port 80, as was asserted initially. I was under the 
impression that FW-1 does a similar thing. Does this mean that FW-1 does just dumbly 
pass every packet that goes over port 80? Or are you saying that unless you are 
filtering URLs or sending packets to a http resource that FW-1 does not care what it 
passes?

Regards
JP

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From: Chris Tobkin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 1:42 AM
To: Jean-Pierre Harvey; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cor van Rijssel
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Subject: RE: Differences between Cisco PIX and Nokia / Check Point


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Actually, no, that is not what FW-1 does.  For speed purposes, most times it does not 
look at the payload at all.  If you are doing something that requires looking at the 
payload (URL Filtering/Anti-Virus/etc.), IOW, using a HTTP Resource, then it will pass 
it up to a "Security Server" (a.k.a. proxy).  There it not only looks for valid HTTP 
headers, but it can also strip out viruses, JavaScript, Java, ActiveX, etc.  The 
ability to queue the message/file/response to disk and check it in its entirety is 
something that is not available with PIX because it only makes sure that the request 
and response comply with Cisco's interpretation the RFC's.  The fixup protocols do not 
add much security since it just passes everything off immediately after it does a 
curosry check.

// Chris
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